earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 6, 2007 21:12:05 GMT -5
I hate them, I despise them and I want to throw a hammer through the windshield, then I want to shoot the damn car with a shotgun until it looks like swiss cheese, take my big hunting knife and rip the stuffing outta the seats, slash every tire on it including the spare, break every window and mirror with a sledge hammer and after all that I'd like to douse it in gasoline and burn it until it's just a smoldering heap of metal sitting in the driveway. I'd be like Jimi Hendricks lighting his guitar and chanting "burn baby burn" Then I'll sell the metal to a scrap yard for $25.
Whewf, I needed to get that off my chest.
My stupid, dumb, piece of crap car wouldn't start last Thursday after I stopped at Mean Street Cycles. Takila and I towed it home and have been trying to get it started ever since. I put a new coil pack on it, since it wasn't getting spark to all the plugs, wouldn't start. The only fault code I get is for the cam sensor. Bought a new cam sensor and put it in, it still won't start. Read that if the crank sensor goes out it might throw the same fault code as the cam sensor, so tonight I bought a new crank senor, laid on the ground while getting my ass ate up by mosquitoes and getting my arms covered in grease and put the new crank sensor in. The #@$*&&^%#$ thing still won't start!
I'm gonna get this junk ass Chrysler started then sell the #$$@% thing and buy me an old 1970 Chevy pickup, something that I can work on without having to have $20,000 in electrical equipment to diagnose.
Thank you for having this forum to let me rant.
I sure feel better now, until I go back out tomorrow night to jerk with the damn piece of chit again.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Sept 6, 2007 21:24:50 GMT -5
Amen brother! I used to be able to get out the owners manual on my ole Toyota Landcruiser "Elsie" and work on her easy. Loved that ole beast. Rode rougher than hell but went everywhere. Now my new fourby, heck half the time I can't even get the friggin electric door latches to work and forget about getting under the hood. I'm a big guy and with all the electronics, there ain't enough room for a grasshopper under there! *L*....Mel
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 6, 2007 21:40:49 GMT -5
You gotta be like Gumby to get your arm down beside the motor just to check the tranny fluid!
On my old dodge pickup I used to be able to straddle the motor, have room for a small tool box on the left fender and a 12 pack of beer on the right fender and even enough room for a 13" tv up by the firewall and still pull the intake off and change a head gasket!
Just thinking about working on the Chrysler again gets me P.O.
Even my old Jag was alright to work on but not this stupid V-6 thats crammed in there with a friggin shoe horn.
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karenfh
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Post by karenfh on Sept 7, 2007 0:19:20 GMT -5
Hahaha! I am liking my old mini-van more, thanks!
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Sept 7, 2007 1:09:55 GMT -5
It's not quite clear to me... are you saying that you like or don't like computer run cars?? ;D
-Don
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Post by hermatite on Sept 7, 2007 9:37:39 GMT -5
I will never, ever, EVER buy another american car. My pt cruiser is the WORST.
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Sept 7, 2007 9:52:11 GMT -5
First of all Earth take a DEEEEEPPPPPP Breath--- maybe take a ride on the Harley- Now STOP THROWING PARTS AT THE DAMN THING!!!!THis is the problem with working on these new cars- Just tossing on new sensors and such Hoping it will work only makes the parts store rich!! If your gonna work on your own hunk of junk then you better have a code reader (well obviuosly you do) and the code flow chart- that being said- I think if you investigate the timing belt on the Chrysler I think you may find your problem (either a lose or broken belt will trigger the cam sensor)- Hope this helps!
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 7, 2007 10:15:03 GMT -5
I pulled the timing cover on Tuesday only to fing the new belt and tensioner I installed a year ago is still fine. It did not jump timing, the belt still has all the teeth on it and the tensioner is still tight as a nuns.... Stefan the code reader is in the computer, on all newer cars anyone can read the codes. On the Chrysler you just have to turn the key on and off twice then turn it on a third time and leave it. The check engine light will flash like 5 times for the number 5 then flask 4 times for the number 4 which is 54 then I go on the internet or look in my haynes book and look up the number for the code. Takilas Blazer is the same way with the key switch. Oh I can't ride the Harley it's clean and it's raining out. Don, I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear enough....  |
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 7, 2007 18:41:03 GMT -5
After checking everything electrical on the car with an ohmmeter and my friends diagnostic computer, we find out it's the PCM. There goes another $200..
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 8, 2007 21:06:22 GMT -5
Update!
It was the timing!
I got it running at about 7:30 tonight. Now I have to take the new computer back on Monday.
I had to tear apart the whole front of the motor to look at the timing marks on both cams and the crank. it jumped timing by 10 degrees, just enough to not let it start.
What pisses me off, is that I should have checked it close on Tuesday evening. I could have had it running then.
Pretty good time of 4.5 hours to tear the radiator, cooling fans, air con. pump, alternator, belt tensioners, harmonic balancer, timing covers and cam covers, computer and air cleaner box, put the two cams and the crank back on top dead center, throw the timing belt back on and re-install everything again. The pig started right up and runs smooth.
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Post by Condor on Sept 9, 2007 10:04:25 GMT -5
To be politically correct, computer run cars "inhale vigorously."
Condor
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 9, 2007 10:09:11 GMT -5
"inhale vigorously"
I stand corrected...
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Post by docone31 on Sept 11, 2007 18:19:08 GMT -5
What is interesting, I can get a computer car to run better and with much lower emissions without a computer. I do a total rebuild, including cam design and head flowing.
Computers just plain sit me down and go hmmmmm.
I built our 1986 454 Suburban into a stroked 503 at 650 dyno hp at shaft. I get 25mpg around town. When the sniffer is put into the pipe, it exceeds 2007 standards at all ranges.
I think those 'puters are a Yuppie plot.
Daggoned expensive also.
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RedwoodRocks
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Post by RedwoodRocks on Sept 11, 2007 23:53:22 GMT -5
Edog, I feel your pain, a few weeks ago, something electrical went out, or more correctly, the car would run for 15-20 minutes then the engine would die, wait 20 minutes to an hour and the car would run another 15-20 minutes before the engine would die. I am not a mechanic, so I had to tow the car to the shop to get fixed, yep an arm and half a leg to replace one sensor!!!!
Cal
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Post by Tony W on Sept 12, 2007 0:49:15 GMT -5
Me dear Mum had an Olds a few years back that would stop running for no reason. MIddle of an intersection... anywhere. Usually had to sit for an hour or two before it wouild start. Spent over1ooo bucks on sensors and months in shops before I gave up on them and brought it home and began to search. Finally found it was the negative cable where it bolted into the block. Some sanding and a bit of vasolene fixed it. It wouldn't throw codes and wouldn't act up at the mechanics so looking for shorts didn't work. It usually only died out on the road and after towing worked like a charm for a day or a week. Pure luck I tried replacing the cables. T
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earthdog
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Post by earthdog on Sept 12, 2007 20:33:49 GMT -5
Tony the car should still throw a code for the battery, mine does. If my battery is unhooked within the last 50 starts it will be my first code, which is 12.
My cam sensor was $32 and my crank sensor was $38. The cam sensor is right out front on the intake which took all of 3 minutes to change but the crank sensor, I had to jack the left side of the car up and crawl under it and reach up to the bellhousing to change that.
When I was younger, like late 20's early 30's I used to love working on my hotrods. I'd be out in the garage all night getting greasy and drinking beer. Now I don't love it so much and just want a dependable car that rides nice and has heat and cold ac. Oh and a kick-ass stereo!
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Post by Tony W on Sept 13, 2007 1:33:19 GMT -5
Yeah, they took all the fun out of working on cars. I came to it late and out of necessity, but I always got a feeling of satisfaction out of troubleshooting and fixing it. The first time I put in an engine I was exhilerated and proud when I stuck in the key and it actually ran. Now.... well, I just want to win the lotto so I never have to do it again  T |
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