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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 11, 2005 2:01:25 GMT -5
Was just combing thru the Rock Tumbling Hobby Homepage and in the TOP TIPS section www.rocktumblinghobby.com/tips/tips.htmlthere was a tip on dunking your stones in super glue. This is now making sense to me now that I've got a couple of batches under my belt. But does anyone really do this??? How has it worked for you and what is your preferred method? thanks once again pals, Gaetz
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 2:13:21 GMT -5
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birdseed
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Post by birdseed on Mar 11, 2005 3:35:44 GMT -5
You will find(over time) cyanocrylate becomes unstable..The original flaws reappear..Don't be fooled..
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 8:07:41 GMT -5
I'm wondering if epoxy might work? But then again it might be too thick.
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MichiganRocks
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"I wasn't born to follow."
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Post by MichiganRocks on Mar 11, 2005 8:11:21 GMT -5
Epoxy is effective for filling pits.
Ron
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 9:31:12 GMT -5
I'll have to remember that Ron, thanks.
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 11, 2005 11:39:51 GMT -5
Well all I'm really interested in is sealing up some of the deeper fractures. I don't really want to completely hide the flaw, I just don't want to cross contaminate, or have the white polish "enhance" the flaw. It's amazing how that polish seeps so deeply into the rocks and shows up so strikingly.
I'm not doing "gem" quality work, or even selling my stuff after it's done, I just want the focus to be on the beauty off the rock and not be distracted by deep white "scales."
My black petrified wood has been in coarse for over a week now. During this coarse stage, I've been trying to chip out the "scales" and break off the "bad" pieces before returning them to the barrel. Before I go to the next stage, I was thinking of dipping them into something....super glue or ?????? to prevent the contamination and "fracture enhancement" during the latter phases. I'm not worried about having the grit in the seams right now because my petrified wood is mostly black and I don't think the grit will show up. I just dont want "white" lines.
Your advice and help are appreciated.
Gaetz#nosmileys
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Mar 11, 2005 12:10:01 GMT -5
I've never tried any of the dipping treatments so I can't comment on whether they work or not. But I don't think you have to worry too much about white lines with petwood because it is opaque, so the polish would only be visible on the very surface of the stone.
The white lines are much more of an issue in highly fractured and translucent or transparent material such as amethyst, rose quartz or clear quartz, where you can see deep into the stone, which makes any polish that has gone into a fracture highly visible.
I think you're better off to just tumble the petwood until the surface is free of rough spots that can trap polish. Anything that gets deep into the stone you aren't going to see anyway.
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Post by mrbrett on Mar 11, 2005 12:49:17 GMT -5
the burnish stage usually will talke all the white out. Well, it has for me.
Brett
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 11, 2005 12:49:26 GMT -5
Rollingstone-
Good point there, didn't think of that. Also, the petrified wood looks cracked naturally, so maybe it's a moot point anyway. I think I will try it on a few just so see what happens.
Gaetz
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 11, 2005 13:06:25 GMT -5
BRETT-
Can you please describe your burnishing stage.
Gaeter
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Post by krazydiamond on Mar 11, 2005 16:44:13 GMT -5
i had a batch of very pretty but hard to shine stones, so i "painted" a test piece with 330 epoxy. (one side at a time). looked really fake. so i tossed it back in the prepolish..i have it in polish now and when i moved it on, it actually looked quite nice. if this works i may try again with a few more pieces.
will post photos in a few days.
KD
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 16:51:33 GMT -5
KD did you scrape off the epoxy before you put it back into polish, or did you leave the epoxy on when you threw it back in?
I'm thinking all that epoxy does is seals the little tiny micoscopic pores (like a first coat of varnish on a piece of wood). Not letting the polish penetrate through, Making polishing possible on some stones. Does that make sense? or am I way off?
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Post by krazydiamond on Mar 11, 2005 17:13:38 GMT -5
this was a very generous coating of 330 epoxy, and i tossed it in as it was, full coating. if this works, i will coat all of that batch and run them in prepolish/polish again.
fingers crossed.
KD
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Post by Cher on Mar 11, 2005 17:53:31 GMT -5
I still can't quite figure out how you can completely submerge a rock in super glue, then get it back out without it sticking to whatever it touches. Then, when you get the super glue all over yourself trying to get it out, everything else will be stuck all over you too. LOL ;D Could be quite amusing .... to others watching.
Cher
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 18:03:42 GMT -5
Cher, I think most people wear latex or rubber gloves. Or they just take that the rock out with some tweezers (depending on the size). Then wipe it right away. It seals the pores, but you pretty much have wiped away most of it. I could be totally wrong though.
But I have to agree, it would look quite comical.
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Post by gaetzchamp on Mar 11, 2005 20:15:50 GMT -5
So again, back to the original question.
"Has anyone ever done this before?????"
Mark, Moderator, or whatever you're called these days......Do you know where this "TIP" came from?
Gaetz
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Post by Cher on Mar 11, 2005 20:40:24 GMT -5
Cher, I think most people wear latex or rubber gloves. Or they just take that the rock out with some tweezers (depending on the size). Then wipe it right away. It seals the pores, but you pretty much have wiped away most of it. I could be totally wrong though. But I have to agree, it would look quite comical. Even with rubber gloves on, soon as you wiped the stuff away, you'd be stuck to it. The wipe would be stuck, the rubber gloves would be stuck. At least that's my experience with super glue. Cher
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Post by Alice on Mar 11, 2005 21:21:39 GMT -5
I've never done it personally but Docone has. Most jewelers do it all the time.
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