stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 1, 2006 14:09:38 GMT -5
Ok I'm gonna try Dopping- but I got a question as to technical technique?  Which side do you start on??? Do you work the good (front) side first- then re-dop the finished side and do the back side- or does it not really matter? Also what wax do you all use? Santa Fe Jewlery offers 2- green and brown- Kingsley offers like 3 or 4 (Green, brown, black, red?) And I'm guessing the wax can be reused??? So how much do I really need (I'm guessing a pound should keep me happy for a long time!) HELP!!!! |
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Post by sandsman1 on Feb 1, 2006 23:35:35 GMT -5
i dont remember it all but i think each color melts at a dif temp so the one that melts at the highest is the strongest -----i think and you will lose alittle each time but a lb should last a long wile
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Post by stoner on Feb 2, 2006 0:59:07 GMT -5
A pound will last you a lifetime. I bought mine at a show and don't remember what it weighed, but I go like 3 sticks and it can't weigh more than a few ounces. Oh, and I haven't even touched 2 of the sticks. I've got the green stuff and it workes really well. Grab a few of your old golf tees for dop sticks.
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Post by Tweetiepy on Feb 2, 2006 8:53:00 GMT -5
How do you guys melt this stuff? at the club they have a hot plate with a dip tin for melting - I was thinking much smaller for home, like a coffee warmer but the tin.... what's smaller than a dip tin?
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Post by krazydiamond on Feb 2, 2006 9:46:01 GMT -5
i bought the green stuff. works for me. yep, you can reuse it...i have an electric dop unit, but have to put it on a fire pad as i almost cooked my kitchen countertop with it....OOPS!
i work the front first and then finish the back, but i think that is just personal prefence.
good luck, Stefan! and put a little bowl of cold water by your work area to cool your fingertips, it can get pretty warm one way or another!
KD
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Feb 2, 2006 11:29:41 GMT -5
LMAO THanks for that tip KD- Tweet I have an electric Griddle Hot plate thing slow cooker thing that we got as a wedding gift that we never used- The wife was cleaning out our pantry and says- hey can you use this? I jumped at it- I have a small pot that I plan on using but honestly something like a tunafish can would work real well (I think) I may get one of those decrotaive cast iron fry pans (you know the real little ones that you hang on a wall?)
cause the iron would hold the heat for a long time- Oh and stoner- I got about 100 golf tees that say- Worlds Greatest Dad! I stopped golfing a few years back (too freaking expensive!!!) but still have all my equip- including dops....er golf tees!
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Post by docone31 on Feb 4, 2006 21:44:29 GMT -5
I use epoxy. Some of the stones I do are heat sensitive. I epoxy the front side first. I outline, than flatten, then polish the back. I snip off the dop, unless I use my aluminum dops, those I heat to loosen the epoxy, then grind the top, grinding off the pieces of dop, and epoxy.
To loosen the backset dop, I use my side cutters to clip/pry off the dop and pick the remainder of epoxy off with a fingernail.
Bada Bing, Bada Boom. Big Boom.
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Post by krazydiamond on Feb 16, 2006 21:13:02 GMT -5
fingernails of steel!
i think with fairly tiny stones, epoxy is the way to work it, but i haven't tried it yet, i made hubby make smallers dops, lol!
BearCreek left me with one of the "Secrets of the Bear Revealed", but i am in process, so cannot post till i'm finished........
i got a bunch of green wax, Stefan, if you want to experiment, i'll send that and the #$%** cerium i hate.
btw, Bear is working on a video, can't wait to buy it!!! i think Doc should seriously think of doing one too!!
KD
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Post by sandsman1 on Feb 16, 2006 22:04:13 GMT -5
stefan thats a good idea i was gonna get a small hot plate at the market for the shop and use a tuna can i fig hey if i mess it up somehow i can allways eat another tuna sandwich hahaha but now that im leavin i said hell wit it just something else to pack up hahaha
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Post by joe on Feb 17, 2006 0:58:52 GMT -5
Ok I just bought a pound of the green stuff so I guess I'm in this too! I have a coffee warmer and a tin can lined with teflon maybe? What temp does the teflon melt at? Maybe I don't want to do this 'till it's warm enough to open the windows.
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Post by Tweetiepy on Feb 17, 2006 7:11:56 GMT -5
Just remember not to heat it up too much as that makes the dop wax very brittle and not at all the right consistency to dop - it gets all gummy too
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Post by stefan on Feb 17, 2006 11:25:22 GMT -5
Well Got the green (dang A pound of wax is an aweful lot) I pot a half a stick in the pot- turned it on- and forgot about it (actually I heard the diner bell!!!) came down a half hour later and I had a pool of green goo in the bottom of the pot- I dipped a wodden dowel (can't seem to find thase dang golf tees) and twirled it around- got the goo on it and smashed it onto the heated rock (yea I left the rocks on the griddle too- pulled the whole thing off the griddle and set it aside too cool- Damn if it did not work out awesome!!!!!! Boy sure was funn running the rocks on the 220 belt!!!!! I like this dop thing- It was a lot easier than I invisioned- So KD keep your wax- but I'll take the cerium off your hands- Oh I also have some solid stock alum rod- I'll send you out a couple sections- I can't remeber the dimensions- but it is stuff they use to "emergency" weld Aluminium (no gass needed) should work pretty good-
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Post by offbeat on Feb 17, 2006 18:20:11 GMT -5
Did you get that 3000 grit belt yet Stefan? I have one coming Monday, if the snow ever quits! The UPS guy is going to have a long walk, don't think he will bring his truck down my driveway. 300' downhill. Easy getting in, a little harder to get out in the winter. Bill
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Post by stefan on Feb 17, 2006 20:00:12 GMT -5
yea Bill I got it- But have not tried it yet- I got 20 or so cabs just off the 220 belt- But I only have 1 or 2 waiting for polish- Hopefully this weekend I'll get to give it a spin!
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Feb 18, 2006 17:56:46 GMT -5
Hi Tweety pie & All.
As regards melting the doping wax A friend gave me a little heater that uses a 60 watt light bulb, takes a while to heat up, but dosent get too hot so its a fair quick job to dop a stick
jack
Yorkshire UK
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Which side do you start on??? Do you work the good (front) side first- then re-dop the finished side and do the back side- or does it not really matter? Also what wax do you all use? Santa Fe Jewlery offers 2- green and brown- Kingsley offers like 3 or 4 (Green, brown, black, red?) And I'm guessing the wax can be reused??? So how much do I really need (I'm guessing a pound should keep me happy for a long time!) HELP!!!!
