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Post by 1dave on Nov 7, 2013 11:19:31 GMT -5
This board needs a "BEST OF THE BEST" section, and this belongs in it!
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Post by 1dave on Nov 7, 2013 11:30:34 GMT -5
Hi Tony , yes it works well I use this method for years I made one and put it on RTH 1 yr ago, (I bumped it up for you) using a old motor out of a domestic vacume cleaner, but I used a big glass bottle as my saw is small , here is the link img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/john-edward/2006047.jpgIt realy makes a big difference on a job that is exceptionaly dirty Makes it Quite enjoyable weeeeeeeeell ?? just about ;D Yours is just the job for a big saw great !! thanks for sharing I hope other's will make one It is such a usefull gadget. Jack Yorkshire UK The photo has been removed.
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Nov 7, 2013 12:29:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a pretty old thread. But thanks for reminding me of Don's post about mixing with water. I think I'll do that, then set it outside to freeze; I should be able to pour the oil off.
Chuck
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Post by phil on Jan 6, 2014 17:50:14 GMT -5
Bought all the parts today to make one, but had to drop to a 3/4 inch size. THey didn't have the galvanized to plastic adapter in 1 inch. Sure hope 3/4 is good enough to do the job.... Anyone ever try 3/4 instead of 1"?
Thanks.
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Post by rykk on Feb 18, 2014 3:11:56 GMT -5
I'm building one of these, myself, but have just one sticking point left: I know - or think I know - that the "snotty side" inlet has to have a pipe extending a ways down into the bucket. How far from the bottom of the bucket should the end of it be? Thanks, Rick
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Feb 18, 2014 10:27:17 GMT -5
Neither side has to extend very far into the bucket at all (it's not a bong). The weight of the snot will drop it to the bottom of the bucket. I think my dirty side goes about 3" into the bucket and the clean side about an inch, just to make sure I don't draw oil directly across. With the clean side close to the bucket lid you're also less likely to run into trouble with a full bucket.
Chuck
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Post by rykk on Feb 18, 2014 21:46:57 GMT -5
Thanks, Chuck! Rick
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Post by lovemyrocks on Feb 25, 2014 11:04:16 GMT -5
Thanks fellows this clean out will be a life saver. I have a lortone 14" drop saw and is one messy job to clean out. with all the infor from past posts this is simple. Bill
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Post by rykk on Feb 26, 2014 3:55:41 GMT -5
Well, I tried out my new slab saw sucker. Just plain AWESOME! What a time/clothes saver! I had to use a 2nd bucket because my sump is 10 gallons but that's no biggie. This thing turned a very dirty, dreaded, multi-day job into just a few hours. A little scraping with a 4" plastic putty knife, sprayed in a can of engine cleaner, hosed it out, and voila!
I did experience one problem, however, and I won't know how major it is until I crack open the lid on my Shop Vac. I ran a pcv pipe about 5-6 inches down on the inlet port as advised. I hooked up a ~2 foot straight attachment that came with my vac to the outlet and then the flex vacuum hose. I noted after filling the bucket the first time that there was oil inside the straight tube on the outlet. I didn't think much of it since it was mentioned that it might go up a couple of inches. While troubleshooting an obstruction - sucked up too big of a rock chip - I happened to remove the flex hose from the top of the 2ft straight pipe attachment and oil came dripping out of the hose!
I don't know how far into the vacuum hose the oil went but am worried it might have fouled the filter in the unit some. I'll have to check 2morrow. What I think caused the oil to go so far up the perpendicular pipe was overfilling the bucket during the suckeragementation. (there's a long word! lol) Would have been nice to have a clear or translucent bucket but I didn't have one like that. I'm just guessing st this time as to the cause. I have one of those big shop vacs on wheels - maybe it has too much suction? Anybody else had this problem with theirs? C-ya, Rick
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Feb 26, 2014 11:21:36 GMT -5
I've had the same thing happen when I've over filled the bucket, but haven't worried about it since it's a wet/dry vac.
Chuck
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Post by rykk on Feb 26, 2014 23:56:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you have to be careful not to let the oil level get too close to the outlet of the bucket. Mine is flush with the lid. The oil was maybe 4-5in from the lid. Would've been nice to have stopped when it was only a few inches deep to see if it traveled laterally from the downspout but I'd have to clean out everything before my nest use to find out. Kinda doubtful, but not impossible. Certainly not a big thing compared to the almost laughable ease of changing oil with this sucka. (pun intended) :-)
Mine's a wet/dry, as well, but it has a ribbed filter inside that I reckon keeps fine dust from exiting the vac's exhaust. Must have some pretty powerful suction to pull snot straight up over 2 1/2 feet. C-ya, Rick
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Post by phil on Feb 27, 2014 12:12:03 GMT -5
To solve the overflow into the vac problem, you need to kludge an auto-stop just like the wet/dry vacs use. It can be made from a piece of PVC larger than a ping pong or other plastic ball, with a "tube" created from hardware cloth on the lower end so the ball can normally sit in line below the pipe, but with enough room to allow normal suction. Go slightly oversize here. Too close and the suction will grab it too early. Then as the oil/sludge fills up the bucket and the ball rises, it will lift till it meets the exhaust pipe, then WHOOMP! suction stops, and you know it's time to change buckets. I like to set mine to stop at 2/3 full so the dang things don't get so heavy and are easy to move around. Just make sure the ball is larger than the pipe fitting you used to make the connection from the lid to the vac. Oh.. and don't use any that will dissolve in mineral oil..... Enjoy!
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Post by rykk on Feb 28, 2014 1:19:26 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll see what I can whip up. Rick
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Post by lovemyrocks on Mar 2, 2014 0:23:16 GMT -5
I went out and built the sucker. Works like a charm. I have a 14" lortone drop saw which is hard to get into tight spots this sucked everywhere even under the plates. I went out and bought some chiffon netting cloth at Jo-Ann fabrics placed over a wire basket in a bucket and poured the mud into this and the oil ran right thru and very little grains in this now filtered oil No paper bags for me. Bill
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Post by AKM on Feb 4, 2018 20:46:34 GMT -5
I ran a pcv pipe about 5-6 inches down on the inlet port as advised. I hooked up a ~2 foot straight attachment that came with my vac to the outlet and then the flex vacuum hose. I noted after filling the bucket the first time that there was oil inside the straight tube on the outlet. I didn't think much of it since it was mentioned that it might go up a couple of inches. While troubleshooting an obstruction - sucked up too big of a rock chip - I happened to remove the flex hose from the top of the 2ft straight pipe attachment and oil came dripping out of the hose! Hello! I am in the process of building this and I'm having a spot of trouble with a few bits ... like how to attach the pvc pipe into the outlet tube (I assume this is the one that is directly attached to the vac itself). Also having considerable trouble finding this part: 1 1" galvanized pipe to plastic pipe connector (has the little ribs to hold onto plastic pipe, mostly used for sprinkler pipe) It is compounded by the fact that I am female so all the men in the hardware stores start acting like I'm stupid. I've shown them this thread and they huff and puff and tell me everyone on this thread has no idea what they are talking about and the directions to build this are horrible. I think they just cant get the big picture and cant think outside the box. Last two times I asked for help in finding the galvanized pipe to plastic pipe connector, was given a straight metal pipe about 6 inches long with threads on each end and I was stupid and assumed he knew what he was talking about and then realized there is NO way that will work to secure the hose part because there are NO ridges, ribs, bumps, or anything for the hose clamp to be secured by so it cant just slip right off. Maybe a picture of it would help? Any help would be a godsend! THANKS in advance!!
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Post by manofglass on Feb 5, 2018 18:23:22 GMT -5
I ran a pcv pipe about 5-6 inches down on the inlet port as advised. I hooked up a ~2 foot straight attachment that came with my vac to the outlet and then the flex vacuum hose. I noted after filling the bucket the first time that there was oil inside the straight tube on the outlet. I didn't think much of it since it was mentioned that it might go up a couple of inches. While troubleshooting an obstruction - sucked up too big of a rock chip - I happened to remove the flex hose from the top of the 2ft straight pipe attachment and oil came dripping out of the hose! Hello! I am in the process of building this and I'm having a spot of trouble with a few bits ... like how to attach the pvc pipe into the outlet tube (I assume this is the one that is directly attached to the vac itself). Also having considerable trouble finding this part: 1 1" galvanized pipe to plastic pipe connector (has the little ribs to hold onto plastic pipe, mostly used for sprinkler pipe) It is compounded by the fact that I am female so all the men in the hardware stores start acting like I'm stupid. I've shown them this thread and they huff and puff and tell me everyone on this thread has no idea what they are talking about and the directions to build this are horrible. I think they just cant get the big picture and cant think outside the box. Last two times I asked for help in finding the galvanized pipe to plastic pipe connector, was given a straight metal pipe about 6 inches long with threads on each end and I was stupid and assumed he knew what he was talking about and then realized there is NO way that will work to secure the hose part because there are NO ridges, ribs, bumps, or anything for the hose clamp to be secured by so it cant just slip right off. Maybe a picture of it would help? Any help would be a godsend! THANKS in advance!! Check your pm I sent you links to the parts your looking for walt
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Post by AKM on Feb 6, 2018 0:44:07 GMT -5
Check your pm I sent you links to the parts your looking for walt Oh you are AWESOME!!!! Thank you!!!
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Post by Rockoonz on Feb 7, 2018 0:18:36 GMT -5
AKM if you can post pics if you can
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Post by jimtawes on Feb 7, 2018 6:26:45 GMT -5
great idea iam going to build one for my 36 saw
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Post by 1dave on Feb 13, 2018 1:32:33 GMT -5
Has anyone lined their saw with aluminum foil?
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