mike4bears
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Post by mike4bears on Jan 30, 2008 23:12:57 GMT -5
Jamie if you want you can use my cat. he is real good at killing gophers. once he gets his eye on them. they are as good as dead mike
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Post by MidNight~Rocksi3 on Jan 30, 2008 23:37:48 GMT -5
OMG!! THATS FREAKY!!! I have never got the heebeegeebees like I just did looking at that spooky looking thing! LOL Oh now I'm gonna have nightmares I just know it!
Thanks Mike
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Post by docone31 on Jan 30, 2008 23:47:25 GMT -5
Cool Cat!!!!! That cat reminds me of Muffy. We found a vet that specializes in exotic animals. We have 2 F1 Bengals. Quite probably more feral, than exotic. However she needed spadeing badly. Her health was suffering. To make a long, short. The vet did a great job. He DID not handle her like the vet handled Ralph when he got fixed. Ralph took out four people in the vets office through ignorant handling of him. At any rate, after complete consideration of her "status" the PROPER medical techniques were employed. Care, competency, and thought of recovery. While recovering, she had a plastic collar to keep her from tearing up her stitches. Her claws were clipped so she would not go beserk. Within the first two hours home, she got rattled inside her carry cage. My fair bride opened the door to take off the collar. That was the end of life as we knew it. I swear, I thought we had brought Muffy to the vet, and she returned the cat from Pet Semitary! Holy mackeral! Well, she is now, two weeks later, sitting comfortably near us. The vet is going to put her to sleep tomorrow to remove the stitches. Should be ok. A very mild sedative that is not long lasting. She again sleeps with my wife, and her eyes glow and she growls at me. Same old Muffy. At any rate, I have been thinking on the gopher issue. Cyanide is out. You might track it into the house after using a lawn spreader to lay it down. The issue is the feed stock for the gophers. If they have nothing to eat, they leave. I had at first thought about using uranium powder. That might not make them leave but, might produce genetic ofspring that are larger, stronger, perhaps even create a super gopher. Don't need that. Arsenic might work. rat poison, powdered and spread all over the lawn might work, if the spreading is very heavy. You have to let it enter the soil and go way down into it. You would have to keep adding arsenic to keep the levels up. The other ideas I had, were to either powder cinnabar and spread it, and keep spreading it, or galena. Galena is not too expensive. Mix it with softener salt and keep it liquid untill it makes a white residue. It helps to do reverse plating to break it down. Then get an attachment for the garden hose. Spray the residue with water untill it completely saturates the ground. Just keep on watering it. You want enough to saturate the environment to have the roots contain it. You can oxidize wheel weights with softener salt to add volume to the residue. If you do your entire lawn this way, the roots will not taste good to the gophers and they will move somewhere else. The residue should stay in the soil so they would not come back soon. You also want to spray around the well pipe. Most people miss that. I still think sticking a "worm rod" into the soil is another way to get them moving on. That is simple. Just get a copper rod, cut a power cord and attach one end to the rod. Tape the end where you are going to push it into the ground. It shocks less that way. The house is the ground, and the rod is the power source. I never tried it with 220, but I bet it works also.
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 30, 2008 23:57:00 GMT -5
LOL Doc
Isn't there an airforce base closeby? You could just call in an airstrike, be done in a few minutes, just make sure you are not at home when you do that.
This thread has certainly been entertaining...................Tony
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Post by docone31 on Jan 31, 2008 0:52:43 GMT -5
Tony, Here is the concern. In the sociological treatise on society back in the '80's, Caddy Shack, the gophers clearly made Bill Murray take drugs ultimately resulting in his slightly impaired judgements and resulting in him falling out of his acting career. As was clearly show, gophers are tricksters! They haunt whomever is on "their" land. They are tenacious. In the '60's before the Soches became the Valley Girls, there was a class struggle between the geneticaly self proclaimed superior Country Club Members, and the proletariot climbing up out of his induced lower state. Even when whats her name was not knocked up, the gophers still taunted all attempts at equality. Gophers conceal the gateway to Middle Earth, and the Morlocks are gaining in numbers. We have been let to believe we are alone and in control. But, gophers, are just waiting, planning, conspiring. They dig burrows, breed, train their young and grow in strength. Their burrows showing up on our lawns, golf courses, school yards, and on, and on, and on, are just them showing us they are there, waiting. Because they are soft and fuzzy, they get all the tree huggers and bambiists rallying to their cause. They make traps that don't trap, poisons that are really food for other vermin. Even using "smart" technology will only warn them of our potential. That is why we need to be covert. Sneak up on them, nip them where they lay. Make removal devices that are both effective, and undetected. Gophers are smart, tenacious, and cunning. They have teeth that they use to drag off our children for their experimantation. They are learning how much we know, and what potential we have. Even to lay the "worm rod" into their midst, a person has to wear snow shoes and cotton clothes so they do not detect intrusion. That way we can shock the snot out of them and they are too busy to see where it is coming from. Just picture a world, where we have become domesticated by the gophers. We would be dragged down into their realm and forced to do their dastardly deeds. Our children would be forced to tend to their young. Failure would result in the person being turned over to the Morlocks. A fate too horrifying to speak of. Drastic measures. We need drastic measures. Failure is the weeping and gnashing of teeth. Whole generations will become power supplies for the Electricals. Neo will never know where we are as we would not be allowed a land line. Doomed, then the Morlocks. Our children will become their protein supply. Those two big teeth, those glowing red eyes, all that fur. Doomed.
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Post by desertdweller on Feb 3, 2008 19:59:56 GMT -5
I have been tempted to do the gas thing but with my luck, I'd blow up my house and the gophers would be sitting there, pointing and laughing.
Good news though, we set the traps and get this..............2 dead gophers! We got 1 last night and then Rodney set them again and he was singing, "I got two gophers" . Then of course he had to show them to me.
They keep backfilling the traps but I think Rodney was so excited about getting the gopher last night, he took the time today to master the carrot part and all that jazz.
Yay! 2 down and 9999999998 to go. Thanks again Mel, those are some very cool "Black Hole Traps".
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Post by docone31 on Feb 3, 2008 20:15:31 GMT -5
Great news, problem is, the Gophers are hiding the entrance to the inner world. If two get sixed, the rest spread the word. They then commit genocide with the residents in the inner world. You might mix sodium bisulphate and make a thick mix and water their holes. The acid will burn holes in their devious hides and Bot Flies will get under their skin. After spreading the sodium bisulphate into the burrows, then spread unmixed sodium bisulphate and sodium hydroxide all over the ground so any rain water will mix with it and it will dilute and enter the ground. Gophers can be mean, devious critters.
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Post by desertdweller on Feb 3, 2008 22:36:47 GMT -5
Geez Doc, How did I miss this one?
Another alternative might be to mix chlorine, and ammonia. It makes the eyes burn. You could also make an injector. Get powdered chlorine, use a lawn injector and inject a really strong mix. Perhaps with warmer water and lots of chlorine powder. You could also, after injecting chlorine into the ground, inject gasoline. Really pump it into the ground, and all around the ground so the gophers will not migrate. Inject enough That you can smell really heavy gasoline smell after the injection, and up to several weeks later. Do all this once a week for about six months. At least they will move.
I bet your right, I think that would do it. I'm guessing this method doesn't include a safety manual? I suppose I should write out my final Will "BEFORE" I try this procedure? Say Doc, you wouldn't happen to know a fella named Bubba would ya?
JK, Just kind of reminded me of a story you told me about a "Yard Guest", or actually I don't even think he was a guest.....I think he just appropriated your yard, kinda the way these overly active gophers have taken over ours.
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Post by mike4bears on Feb 3, 2008 22:49:17 GMT -5
this is starting to sound like the last thing a red neck say right before he dies which is. hey bubba watch this. mike
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Post by karenfh on Feb 4, 2008 2:53:58 GMT -5
Hey, just for shoots and goggles, I refer to my previous post. Simple and easy. Like I said, a bit labor intensive, but not harmful. I was actually serious!
And that poor cat...Mike, you bad boy! And all the chemicals. Doc, there is a better way.
Better take some tin foil precautions while you apply whatever you decide to do! I think we need pix! Best of luck to ya, and I, for one, am awaiting your final solution.
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Post by docone31 on Feb 4, 2008 9:43:11 GMT -5
I wonder if it might be possible to get some surplus anti foliants. If so, then it would just be a matter of really saturating the ground with the stuff. You would not want to air spray as it might get on the plants you like. I did some searches on herbicides. I found some really effective ones. Some had an L/D of 1 to 5. They might help. They have half life of thousands of years. Kill the plants, no more gophers!
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Post by desertdweller on Feb 7, 2008 11:34:23 GMT -5
Yeah, who cares if we have a bald yard! Plants are over rated anyway, I'm mean you can't eat them, all they do is sit there wanting a bunch of water. Besides, I like dirt! Just plain old dirt. Great idea Doc. LOL!
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Post by MidNight~Rocksi3 on Feb 8, 2008 1:51:16 GMT -5
LOL.... Yeah ..Jamie.. did you forget where we live..lol.. ain't nuttin wrong with a little dirt.. here and there... and MORE Dirt on top of that.. .. always wondered why you spent so many hours and days slaving away , sweating , raking, planting, watering, mowing, making them gophers the only Oasis this side of Phoenix... Crazy ...lol
But it's weird now that you're ready to give up on Grass and Trees that it keeps raining and keeps growing.. honestly this is the most grass I've seen anywhere.here in AZ.... Or is it Mold? ......Weeds? LOL whatever that green stuff is on the ground is kinda scary.... LOL
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Post by docone31 on Feb 8, 2008 21:42:13 GMT -5
Well, the green stuff is the main reason for the herbicides! Like duh! You see, a long time ago, there was a light in the sky. It arched, glowing brighter and brighter. Then something went amiss. Poof! Now a crater. Boy, I could go into the entire scenario, but I would sound like an Hippy. Corporate beef, genetically altered grass seed. Almost right up there with conspiracy. However, they were here to teraform us. The first thing to do was warm up the planet. Their knees bend backwards and their eyes have nictating membranes. Once they arrived, they took stock of their vehicle and decided they were going to stay here. The ones that were left hovered around their atomic campfire, they uttered a mantra, and became energy life forms. Hence the threat of the Electricals! They are the ones that go thump in the night, make shapes that move on the walls when the lights are out. They are the ones that talk to us when no one is in the room. They travel through the electrical wiring and enter our houses through the electrical sockets. Bandaids. Put bandaids on the wall sockets at night. They cannot pass through them. The Electricals created Dentists, and Drs. Dentists put chips in our teeth so their satellites can track us. Drs., make us dependant on medications that cause us to drive our vehicles more than used to be usual. Hence global warming. Terraforming. It is a plot to overthrow us. They created polititians to make us think it is all right. They created tree huggers. They keep us from exterminating the Electricals. Meanwhile, the Electricals are digging secret tunnels and dungeons under our homes and torturing people right under our homes! Their bones are used to keep the Middle Earth residents where they are. The Gophers are agents of the Electricals. They bring information to the Electricals. They make people drive to the feed and grain store to get traps that do not work. More fuel consumption, more global warming. Electricals win. That green stuff. That is their grasses and other vegetation. Our vegetation consumes CO2, theirs consumes O2 and produces CO2. Electricals win! It is scary. It is the front. It is the battle line. It is intergalactic warfare on a very ingenious scale. We get the seeds from the feed and grain store and plant them ourselves! We have been decieved! That is how they do it. They enter our rooms while we sleep. They tell us to plant for spring. They tell us to use organic fertilizer. Hah! There are alien tapeworms in that stuff. They get into our food, and air. We breather them. They enter our heads and control our desires. We are their battery. They make us think we are living one life when in reality, we are in coccoons, connected to storage cells. They give us our thoughts, our desires, our values. Ever wonder how come we do not see ghosts? They were created by the Electricals. They were created to keep us looking in that direction, when in reality we spend our entire lives as a power cell. Self replicating, repairing, and they keep us agitated so we generate more energy! Just look at the energy we generate dealing with gophers! We have to find the right traps, that do not work, the right bait they do not want, the right herbicides that do nothing. All that mental controversy creates volts! They need volts to prosper. Put Bandaids on the sockets, pull out those molars, dig up their tunnels, eliminate all thoughts. We can defeat them.
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Post by MidNight~Rocksi3 on Feb 9, 2008 1:48:21 GMT -5
See Doc... That's the reason why they used to say... you gotta take it EZ on the Blut Dots and Stick to the Top of the Stems.. LOL.. And DONT DRINK THE JUICE!!!!! Well from what I was told.. that was before my time.. and I should of been there.. cuz the whole gopher secret agent conspiracy idea... is starting to get to me too... I went over to visit jamie.. and I swear .. they sent one out to watch me...
Without fear I caught those Beady eyes watching my every step... and wondering if I was the exterminator.. it almost had me to afraid to get out.. was so shaken up she actually beat me in darts.. Not once.. Or twice.. But THREE IN A ROW... Of course I still owe her a birthday present so.. ya know.... LOL
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Post by desertdweller on Feb 10, 2008 3:15:12 GMT -5
Nice try Roxy, all that crap isn't gonna fly, plain and simple I kicked your azz.
Beady eyes, shaken up, ha! You were breakin a sweat, admit it.......I smoked you!
SO Doc, tell me about the bandaids, why not use duct tape instead? And, what the hell is a nictating membrane? Got pictures? What does an electrical look like? Got feet? Hands? Are they sparky? I'm pretty sure we sprayed for those when we moved in. They can't be too bright if they are working with the gophers and I'm pretty sure they haven't dragged anyone down into their holes to torture them yet. They may have taken over my cat though, she does some funky crap when she's practicing her karate moves out in the yard.
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 10, 2008 21:09:53 GMT -5
Jamie: The nictitating membrane is that third eyelid that is semi transparent and hinged on the inner side. Closes the other way across the eye and keeps it clean. Found in birds and some other critters....Mel
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Post by docone31 on Feb 10, 2008 21:23:33 GMT -5
Bandaids are the trick. They create a Faraday Cage principle. Duct tape has a metallic fiber that allows the Electricals to travel on the fibers and get out. A person has to only use real Bandaids. The generic brands will not do. We have been conditioned to react to SALE so we get the unreal thing. Nictating membranes are the membranes over the eyes. Instead of closing like regular eyelids, the membranes move from side to side. They allow the Electricals to live in their regular atmosphere of sulpher dioxide. You can tell if you see them, their knees move backwards. They have learned to utilize opposing atmospheres and still reproduce. The few gophers you are catching are the dedicated fanatics. They are the old, or maimed that put themselves in the trap to throw off the scent. The Electricals have taught us to have doubt. One of the important defenses we have is a tinfoil hat. Another is putting a 9volt battery in our mouth with the terminals inside the mouth. That serves two purposes. One to short out the chips in our teeth, I pulled mine out, second, our mouth has a saline environment. 9volts will electrolize O2 from our saliva. Admittedly, it is an insignificant amount, however every little bit helps. We are not talking a post '60's Barking Spider/Waving Walls episode. We are being invaded. The Electricals through their force of Dentists, Drs., politicians, teachers, televangelists, and most cunning, Liberals! What the Electricals do not want us to know, the secret of the universe is in the Ganges Glacier. That is why they are raising the temperature. To melt the secret before we discover it. They also eat human flesh. You cannot spray for Electricals, you can only short them out. Tinfoil hats prevent our thoughts from being read by them. It is also a Faraday Cage. It also helps us to feel a little better, calm us down. Preventing aliens from reading our minds leaves us our minds to read ourselves. The secret is out there.
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Post by desertdweller on Feb 11, 2008 16:45:35 GMT -5
What scent Doc? What the hell does an electrical smell like? I'd be happy with a few more old and maimed gophers if thats all we can expect to catch, thats better than nothing.
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Post by docone31 on Feb 11, 2008 19:40:23 GMT -5
Electricals smell like Ozone. The trail the gophers use, is the one to enslave us. They have red eyes, and speak in languages only a few can understand. The worst part is, they have us thinking nothing is wrong. That is the Electricals talking in our sleep. They make us dream. They plant thoughts in our subconsious. They convince us to get medical insurance, credit cards, and that we need a new car. They like to keep us in debt, the borrower is slave to the lender. They keep us enslaved so we generate the electrical energy they need to grow into a mechanized world. We must act quickly.
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