desertdweller
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Post by desertdweller on Jan 25, 2008 15:59:58 GMT -5
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adrian65
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 25, 2008 16:24:18 GMT -5
Oh, don't be harsh with them! Look in the 2nd pic, they even built a heart on the ground for you. They love ya ;D
Do you think explosives would be efficient? Maybe CO2, exhaust gas or something like that could work better.
Adrian
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Post by huffstuff on Jan 25, 2008 16:32:27 GMT -5
Do you have any dogs? Aren't some dogs trained to go after burrowing creatures? I remember from the dog shows, their tails are extra strong so the hunters can drag them back out by their tails....
Amy
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Post by floydrocks on Jan 25, 2008 17:16:16 GMT -5
We have moles and John tried putting a hose on an old lawn mower exhaust and stuck it in a hole. Smoke was coming up everywhere...It was one of those..you had to be there. I think it just got the moles high...we still got them!!! Have groundhogs too. Someone told John to put a radio in the hole and turn it up high and they would leave. The next day the radio was gone, but not the groundhogs. We just gave up!!!
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Post by docone31 on Jan 25, 2008 17:37:45 GMT -5
One of the things we used to do, to take an electrical cord. Those Electricals do have an use. Take one lead and solder it to a copper dowel. Wrap electrical tape on one end. Plug the cord into the socket, and push the dowel into the ground up to the tape. With an heavy infestation, make several. In a few days, they leave completely. The electricity apparently irritates them. Take powdered potassium cyanide and put it into a lawn spreader. Spread this thickly over the entire lawn. Even if they come back, they die off in the burrows. It doesn't smell too badly. A few days. Keep putting potassium cyanide all over the lawn for a few years untill the level is really built up. No more Gophers from space. Just make sure you do not lick your fingers after spreading the lawn.
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Post by krazydiamond on Jan 25, 2008 18:18:26 GMT -5
we have moles too, our yard looks like that every spring. dang critters. the freakin' deer eat my shrubbery in the winter and the moles make the lawn a trip hazard for the summer.
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Post by agatemaggot on Jan 25, 2008 21:03:50 GMT -5
You might go to the Dollar store and get a couple large jugs of Ammonia. If you mix it 50/50 with water and apply it down a few of the holes with a weed sprayer that has a hose and nozzle they may look for a new residence. This is a sure fire cure for a colony of bats that like to take up residence in attics and around cracks in chimneys, ect. The fumes will last for several days and the little critters are left with 2 choices, LEAVE, or , DIE. The migration will probably start before you finish your first application. Ammonia will also flush out any snakes that like gopher burrows also , so, keep a close watch behind you !!!
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Post by snowdog on Jan 25, 2008 21:42:05 GMT -5
if they are regular "moles" then talk to a "lawn service " -- I've had a couple tell me to sprinkle " --------- (forgot what) " on the lawn -- it kills the grubs that they eat --- and if there's nothing for them to eat then they will leave ------ ( course you could hire the "snowdog" to dig them out --- he loves doing that ! ;D) -- that's the real one , not me !---- but the holes are bigger that he leaves !
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Post by Sabre52 on Jan 25, 2008 22:12:13 GMT -5
Holy moly Jamie, you really have the gopher colony from hell in your yard. Girl, if you wear pointy heeled cowboy boots you'll break an ankle. First off, those are not mole holes so forget about mole control methods. Moles are actually much harder to control but much less numerous too *L*. You should try to place your black hole traps on a section of the run that is fairly gentle in angle and you may have to set one in each direction if the tunnel goes both ways from where you intersect it because you don't know if the critter is in front of or in back of the trap. The wire does not cut them in half and they may be pretty feisty when you pull out the trap so bring a stick to whack'em with. Make sure the catch loop lies just along the edge of the trap when set and the trigger wire just barely engages the hole in the trigger bar so it fires off real easy. A major trick is to make sure no light gets into the trap. The trap folks make a hole in the back to let in light which is stupid because gophers are negatively phototrophic and will push a load of dirt ahead of them into the trap to close off the light and spring it on the dirt. They'll do that plenty enough without the light hole.You want them venturing all the way into the trap so no light. A good way to solve that problem and increase trap success is to put a round of carrot into the whole. That shuts out the light and baits the gophers into the trap. Also you should tether all your traps or else cats, skunks, coyotes, coons etc will drag them off. And, flag them so you can find them easily with a flashlight after dark because you want to check them and reset before bed and first thing in the AM. That way you double your catch. If they get filled with dirt, that's a sign of busy gophers so keep trying in that same hole. If no activity over night or in the evening, change locations. Sometimes they'll block the tunnel when you place the trap and quit using that run. Trapping works pretty well. I've actually exhausted the gopher supply on an acre of so around the ranch house with just eight traps in just a few weeks trapping. The ammonia technique might kill or move the gophers but it also kills good critters in the burrows and will kill plants at those concentrations so my choice would be not to do that.......Mel
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Post by earthdog on Jan 25, 2008 23:03:17 GMT -5
That would be the Jack Russell Terrier. Jamie, I can ship Sadie down to ya for a week. I gaurrentee she'll have them gone inside of a week. I'd love to have a few gophers in our yard just to watch her work. As is all we have is mice and she hunts them around the yard and the rocks around the pond even when it's -3 outside. Let me know if you want Sadie, I can try and stuff her in a FRB with some air holes.
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Post by krazydiamond on Jan 26, 2008 9:48:52 GMT -5
"eDog's Gopher Removal Service"........could be a second income! i think Sadie would love it...chasing the gophers, i mean, not the FRB shipping.
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Post by desertdweller on Jan 26, 2008 15:38:38 GMT -5
Holy Crap Doc, cyanide? I'll pass on that one. So far the traps we have set have come out of the ground packed with dirt, (not that we need to see a sign of activity, we know they are overly active now!) I'll make sure Rod reads your message Mel so he can place the traps strategically.
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Post by desertdweller on Jan 26, 2008 15:41:02 GMT -5
Hey Dog, I'd love to borrow Sadie for a week or so, I'd love to borrow 10 Sadies for a week.
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Post by docone31 on Jan 26, 2008 19:37:10 GMT -5
Another alternative might be to mix chlorine, and ammonia. It makes the eyes burn. You could also make an injector. Get powdered chlorine, use a lawn injector and inject a really strong mix. Perhaps with warmer water and lots of chlorine powder. You could also, after injecting chlorine into the ground, inject gasoline. Really pump it into the ground, and all around the ground so the gophers will not migrate. Inject enough That you can smell really heavy gasoline smell after the injection, and up to several weeks later. Do all this once a week for about six months. At least they will move.
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Post by earthdog on Jan 26, 2008 21:09:38 GMT -5
Jamie, just pour some gas down the hole and flip some lit matches at the holes, throw some bbq sauce inthe holes and mmmm mmmm bbq gopher....
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Post by RockyBlue on Jan 28, 2008 23:36:44 GMT -5
Years ago my dad got rid of some moles and gophers by putting straight amonia on cotten balls ball and droping them down there holes...........Rocky
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 28, 2008 23:57:57 GMT -5
Flash powder works great, just be vewwwy vewwwy caweful, the concussion jellies their insides. Make sure you are not close, cause it can also jelly your outsides. (static electricity will also ignite flash powder, so it is not something to play with if you don't know what you are doing)
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Post by Sabre52 on Jan 29, 2008 0:35:15 GMT -5
Holy smokes Doc and all you other would be chemists! Cyanide and, ammonia plus chlorine which yields highly toxic and corrosive chlorine gas, are exceptionally nasty chemicals! Never mind that it's highly toxic to people and all non target animals. It's also highly friggin illegal to mix Your own homemade pesticides or use any pesticide that does not have a registered and accepted label. I worked pesticide use enforcement for years investigating injuries to people and animals due to just the sort of goofy homemade toxic cocktails you guys are suggesting. Jamie, stick with traps or legal registered pesticides please!!! If someone or some non target animals were reported poisoned, you would be totally behind the eight ball and be possibly subject to nasty fines and lawsuits. Jeez!!!! I've seen whole hillsides set on fire by the gas treatment and whole yards blown up by explosive mixes like carbon disulfide set off by a match. Think safety and legality first folks!.....Mel
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Post by karenfh on Jan 29, 2008 0:54:22 GMT -5
Well, this is going to sound very simplistic (and labor intensive), but fairly cheap. After a gopher hole caused our well to be contaminated, which was NOT fun, and cost a small bundle! (They had to pull our well pipes up, replace the pump which shut down due to the sand caused from the gopher breaching our water source). Plus the inconvenience of no drinkable water for 2 weeks until it was tested OK... We poured bleach down the well pit and all the gopher holes, sprayed bleach on the surface with a power sprayer thing. Generic clorox, less than $1 a gallon. Killed the grass, but it's not as bad as other things. Then we rototilled every week. Yep, we did, around the perimeter. Once a week, for about 4-5 weeks? Then we left it for a few weeks. No new holes. So we did it again. Then, raked and planted buffalo grass. Got lots of weeds, sandburs, etc. But the gophers left. Gophers eat roots and such! No food source, no gophers. They get the idea. gardening.yardener.com/AboutGophers.htmlHope this helps. Unfortunately, they will probably just move outside of your fence, and come back again later. But you can refer to the website above, and plant things they supposedly don't like. Good luck! K
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Post by docone31 on Jan 29, 2008 10:28:53 GMT -5
Hi this is from Mrs. Doc- I had the moles from hell in Oregon. I tried everything including sheep dip and chlorine and ammonia. The fume stuff just made them move around, and the cats caught a few. Moth balls just caused them to move, same with sheep dip- they would just dig new tunnels.
The most effective mole fix was a little kid with a pet ferret, who would come back when he's killed off most of the moles. You can trap forever, and they are smart enough to figure out the traps after a while, you just thin out the dummies. Then you have smart ones to deal with, which is not good.
Try a ferret.
Julie
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