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Post by sparkles on Sept 6, 2008 15:40:43 GMT -5
Hi Folks, This batch of Carnelian originates from Africa and started out as particularly heavily pitted nodules. The material was not overly hard like some silicates, and so the rough grind stage only took 10 weekly re-charge cycles of 80 grade grit in my 1.5lb barrels. The stones then had a week in 220, 3 weeks in 400 grade SiC and finally 3 weeks in Cerium Oxide polish. The heavy pitting took a while to tumble out but the gentle orange glow inside the stones really demands a clean pit free finish to give it's full beauty. The gentle translucency is especially fine in the softer coloured stones. An enjoyable tumble material, but requires a little patience to remove all the pits and reveal the true beauty of natural Carnelian. Have Fun Tumbling! Sparkles.
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Post by rollingstone on Sept 6, 2008 16:57:44 GMT -5
Wow, you abolutely nailed those!!! Outstanding job! -Don
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 6, 2008 17:00:53 GMT -5
A superior batch. Does anyone else see the face in the last photo?
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Post by akansan on Sept 6, 2008 18:01:51 GMT -5
Gorgeous tumbles, Sparkles. Carnelian is always a favorite, and yours has great color.
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Post by nansaidh on Sept 6, 2008 19:14:33 GMT -5
Stunning batch and amazing shine! Congratulations!
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Post by Bikerrandy on Sept 6, 2008 19:27:23 GMT -5
Wow, where did you come from?? lol... Those are awesome!! I'm looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.
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Post by rockrookie on Sept 6, 2008 20:29:45 GMT -5
patience is a virtue ----------and a darn shiny rock -------------amazing !!---------paul
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Post by parfive on Sept 6, 2008 21:49:27 GMT -5
Beautiful batch, Spark!!
You're obviously an old pro at this. I'd think the 1 1/2 pound barrels would test our patience even more.
Rich
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Post by Condor on Sept 6, 2008 23:07:59 GMT -5
Whoa! Those are incredible. Do you have a few of those in the rough to see what they looked like? Truly stunning.
Condor
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Post by ejs on Sept 7, 2008 7:27:56 GMT -5
Sign of a man with great patience: stating that this tumble took "only" 10 weekly recharges! Great stuff, fantastic shine, an inspiration!
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Post by dshalldms on Sept 7, 2008 9:13:24 GMT -5
Awesome!
For me, Botswana Carnelian will always be the Queen of Chalcedonies.
Thank you for sharing them with us.
Derek
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Post by Noosh9057 on Sept 7, 2008 9:58:28 GMT -5
WOW!!!!! those are great!!!!!!!
Roger
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Post by cpdad on Sept 7, 2008 12:18:23 GMT -5
excellent job...well done ,,,kev.
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Post by LCARS on Sept 7, 2008 12:22:11 GMT -5
Excellent batch! I've tumbled a few carnelians in mixed batches before but never had enough on hand at one time to do an exclusive batch of them. It's one of my favorite tumbling stones but the two local rock shops here just charge too much for the rough.
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Post by sparkles on Sept 7, 2008 13:21:19 GMT -5
Hi Again, Thanks for the kind words Folks! I'm really glad you enjoyed seeing them. I certainly enjoyed tumbling them very much. Condor - Hi - Sorry, I haven't any rough photos - I either didn't snap one or I've "mislaid" them along the way, but I did stumble across a mid grind image showing the nasty pits... The rocks in the rough had very little matrix adhering to them, just a very bumpy surface. The nodules were no larger than 2in a piece. Anyhow - here's the pic... Thanks again! Sparkles.
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Post by 181lizard on Sept 7, 2008 19:04:33 GMT -5
Oh Oh! We have another winner with the shine! I'm putting this tumble into the same class as rollingstones (Don) who we all hold in very high esteem for his superior finished tumbles!
I can see the whole batch drilled...strung & hanging around my neck as I type!
Well done!
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ejs
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Post by ejs on Sept 7, 2008 19:21:15 GMT -5
Sparkles: what did you do to recharge between rough tumbles? Did you rinse and add fresh grit, or keep the slurry around? Mine always look like your mid-tumble photo!
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Post by sparkles on Sept 8, 2008 7:24:47 GMT -5
Hi I shall endevour to explain my process a little more clearly. I run 4 rotary tumblers carrying a total of 10 identical 1.5lb barrels, and I use standard Silicon Carbide tumble grit for all my processing. Barrels are loaded in the conventional fashion, with approximately 2/3rds stone, a measure of grit and then topped up with water to just below the level of the top stones in the barrel. I use approximately 10% of the total barrel load of stone by weight in Silicon Carbide - i.e with my small barrels running about 500g of rock, I use 50g of grit per load. The barrel runs for 6.5 days before I rinse off everything, sort the stones (removing any that are ready for the next stage) and reload the barrel. Reloading the barrel with fresh grit and water and continuing the process. I have reused slurry in the past - however this gave me no increase in the measured effectivness of the process. I have studied the action generated by my tumbling in several ways, including weighing the batch before and after processing to measure the actual reduction of material from the process. This varies considerably between rock varieties, but for the Carnelian batch an average reduction of about 8-10% per cycle is typical. This also changes as the rocks begin to shape up and have more efficient surfaces for the stones to work against. Regarding grit and the tumble action - I have tried measuring the effect of the tumble after 4, 5, and 6 days of tumbling, and in reality - the grit has done most of it's work by day 5 from a fresh load, slurry may assist in getting the action going a little earlier, but as very little further reduction occurs after 4 days, there seems no need to do this as the grit breaks down from fresh quite quickly anyway. If you are tumbling softer rocks, then monitor the grit breakdown carefully as this is not always the case. Leave the barrel to stand for 20 minutes before emptying, and leave the bottom dregs of slurry - then rinse under the tap gently, and look for the glittery grit, you'll see quite quickly, how much, and how coarse the grit is, and can adjust the recipe as nescessary. For example - I use 80 grade SiC for week one, but then swap to 220, and run 4 or 5 cycles with the medium grit before the final stages, this gives a much finer and smoother finish, the rough grit can run 2 weeks and still be effective, but the slurry has changed to paste by then and the rocks just bash each other in the barrel! I don't use other additions, pellets, ceramics etc... as I've never found them particularly beneficial in the early stages, I do however use the plastic pellets in the polish barrel to help cushion the delicate tumbles in the final stages. The crux of the process to my mind is the final grinding stage - I use 400 grade SiC - as it's the finest available here in the UK - but I leave it tumbling in the barrel for at least 2 weeks and preferably 3 without re-charging or interference - this gives the tumbles plenty of time to break down those tiny grains to microscpoic grains, and the resulting stones are smooth and silky - just ready for a wash and on to the polish. Having chipped and damaged 2 batches by trying the burnishing mularkey - I don't bother with this any longer, but I do hand buff the stones with a soft cloth after washing the polish off. I hope this explains the process a little more clearly - and of course - any queries or questions - please don't hesitate to ask! Thanks, Sparkles.
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Post by ejs on Sept 8, 2008 11:47:59 GMT -5
Thanks so much for all the details, Sparkles. It is so great to be able to learn from the experience of others.
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Post by creativeminded on Sept 8, 2008 11:59:58 GMT -5
Those are beatufiul, wow what a shine. Tami
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