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Post by Tonyterner on Oct 22, 2008 11:22:39 GMT -5
Here is what I would like to do. Please tell me if its a stupid or nutty idea. I want to have a small saw set up in my shop so I can cut out shapes in slabs when I want to cab. Right now I have a WF saw but its a lot of work to set and clean up just to cut a couple of preforms, not to mention its not basement freindly. I'm thinking I'd like a 4" saw that uses oil rather than water, that way I wouldn't have the lengthy cleanup time whenever I cut. So tell me, am I being wacky or practical?
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Post by pebblepup on Oct 22, 2008 12:00:31 GMT -5
I use a small Inland Lapidary saw 6.5" blade with water for cutting rough cabs out of slabs. I did use my 10 inch saw with oil for a very short time. I found that cleanup was more of a problem with the oil than the water. A small trim saw for cutting shapes is the way to go. I like my Inland saw but I know there are better quality saws available.
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Post by Tonyterner on Oct 22, 2008 12:08:34 GMT -5
Thanks PP. The Workforce saw I have uses water but I was just trying to find some way of doing it without the long setup and cleanup it takes with a water saw.
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Post by akansan on Oct 22, 2008 12:13:54 GMT -5
I'm right there with you, Tony. In addition to the water/oil issue, I'd like a "neat" saw that I'm not worrying about the spray in my room. I love my WF - but I wish I hadn't thrown away my blade cover immediately upon purchasing (I just wanted to cut BIGGER pieces!).
I know there are additives for water that will prevent rust - perhaps that would be a good use?
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 22, 2008 12:19:55 GMT -5
You should take a look at the Gryphon band saw, it makes very little mess and only takes a couple of cups of water to run. I have mine set up in the spare bedroom. You can also cut curves or circles with it, so less grinding, makes cutting slabs very easy. I got mine from John at JSGems, very pleased with it, I have not used my 7" tile saw since I got it.
Tony
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Post by BuiltonRock on Oct 22, 2008 12:46:48 GMT -5
The band saw sound awesome and it would be great for cutting circular shapes!
But I guess I don't have a set-up or clean up issue with my tile saw. I have my WF in a plastic tote tub and a plexiglass shield that catches the spray and drips back on to the saw and then into the tub. I do have to add water to the tub after a while and the shield is not perfect, but it works for me!
Although...You can't have too may saws ;D ;D
john
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Post by Michael John on Oct 22, 2008 17:22:55 GMT -5
What set-up and tear-down hassle with the WF? When I'm done with it for the day, I just dump the pan, get the worst of the sludge out of it, and run a wet rag over the cutting surface. 2 minutes tops. To get it ready to use the next time ... add water. How much easier can it get? If you need to avoid overspray, rig a plexiglass shield or two or three. I use mine outside, so no worries about all of that.
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 22, 2008 20:21:17 GMT -5
Tony: IMHO oil cooled saws for trimming are way messy! Literally throw oil everywhere when your hand trimming and make a mess so bad you have to cover the floor with absorbant to avoid a huge cleanup problem. Cooling a trim saw with water is way nicer in my book....Mel
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Post by stonesthatrock on Oct 22, 2008 20:44:46 GMT -5
ralph and i have the ameritool trim saw and love how it cuts any shape you could possibly want to do. It uses a very small amount of water, so now mess or getting spray all over. works out perfectly for us. I have to agree with mel on the oil idea.
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 22, 2008 22:03:30 GMT -5
Tony- I don't even clean my Workforce saw anymore. It's sitting outside, it's been outside for more than a year. Whenever I want to use it, I simply plug it in!
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Post by deb193redux on Oct 23, 2008 1:47:50 GMT -5
I have been surprised how clean the 8" and 6" Lortone trim saws at the club shop are. They use a water & RV anti-freese mix, and there is a splash guard, but not much water mist gets thrown about.
A Gryphon C-40 would be great tool. It is on my one-day-to-get list.
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Post by Woodyrock on Oct 23, 2008 12:03:04 GMT -5
I got a Rock Rascal (six inch) for my wife, putting a diamond wheel on it, and I have a ten inch Frantom. both work well inside, but the Rock Rascal is the less messy plus it has the small wheel to finish roughing the cabs. I tried using mineral oil (since I use it in the slab saw) with the Frantom. What a mess that made! It did lubricate better, but it also 'lubricated' the floor, the wall, and me! Woody
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Post by Tonyterner on Oct 23, 2008 13:11:45 GMT -5
OK I guess I have to give up my dream. The main problem with cleaning the workforce is I need to do it outside as I only have a kitchen sink and I'm not going to do it in there. I rent the first floor and basement of a house but there is no hose bib outside so I have to carry buckets of water outside. Mine is a mess when I'm done cutting. Not to mention I have a problem with my fingers and even the slightest bit of water mixed with cold temps makes my finger dead numb to the touch but also very painful. Guess I'll just have to live with not cutting from October until May.
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Post by kap on Oct 23, 2008 15:05:29 GMT -5
I agree you need to check out the Gryphon band saw from jsgems it is a great saw for cutting shapes. Keith
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Post by sitnwrap on Oct 23, 2008 15:59:47 GMT -5
Tony, my hands can't tollerate cold weather and being wet either. Have you tried rubber gloves? Not the thick ones but the surgical ones. They are a bit flimsy but will give some decent protection and they are pretty cheap. can get them at the drug store.
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Post by Tony W on Oct 23, 2008 16:36:23 GMT -5
YOu got Renauds? I'm with Randy.... pull the pan, wipe it down and go. If you need to, put down a tarp to catch the chips and dust, and a 5 gallon bucket for the sludge water. Clean up and empty when you have time to spend. It is a tough saw and doen't have to be babied unless you just want to. On a job site they have to be tough. Tony
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