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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 25, 2008 15:31:21 GMT -5
Any opinions?? I've been using the Rockhound Oil from Covington. I need more oil and was looking at the Lube Cool 4800, it's water-soluable and 100% boi-degradeable, and "cheaper". Has anyone ever used this stuff? I need input!! ;D
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firewalker45
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Post by firewalker45 on Oct 25, 2008 17:52:06 GMT -5
Hi Randy, yes I use them both. The Lube Kool 4800 is rec. for saws 10 inch and smaller. I use the 4800 for my trim saws and the MO for my large saws. The rust inhibators in the 4800 do not work too well if it sits for some time. So I scoop the water out until it is below the saw blade when I am done using it. One dealer stated that you can use it for larger saws but it would reduce the life of the blade. Hope this helps, Daniel
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Post by Woodyrock on Oct 25, 2008 18:57:29 GMT -5
Randy: I have posted in the past about sourcing mineral oil, but the jist is, find a bulk oil distributer, and buy from them. Down side is you usually have to buy a drum. The up side is, the MO is about $6.00 per gallon, and that is what Covington and others are repackaging as ""Rock oil"" for a very good mark up. The oil you want is pharmaceutal grade, this is the same as food grade except the 'food grade' has to be packaged in a clean room. Woody
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 25, 2008 21:34:18 GMT -5
Thanks guys, that's the info that I needed! I guess that Cool Lube 4800 is out since this will be for a 16 inch slab saw. Woody- where would I find a bulk supplier? Might I be able to find one locally? This would be cool if I could. I have a big truck, so a drum would be sweet because I'd be set for a while.
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Post by Woodyrock on Oct 25, 2008 22:23:27 GMT -5
Randy: I would think you could find a bulk oil dealer close by since you are close the Norfolk Naval shipyard, you just need to check the yellow pages. The oil I use is made by Panama Petrochem Ltd in India. The product is Light Liquid Parafin (White Mineral Oil) with a viscosity of 7.5-100 cSt @ 104 degree F (40 degrees C) and I get it from a local bulk oil dealer. I add Bardal "No Smoke" from Wal Mart to prevent misting. Woody
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 25, 2008 22:40:05 GMT -5
I get mine from a bulk oil distributor, here they are called "United Oil". I buy the technical grade mineral oil, it is used here to spray on dirt roads to keep the dust down in the summer, it is basically the same as food grade mineral oil, except it is not packaged in a "clean room" and it only costs $4.85 a gallon that way. Ask your local service station repairman where he buys his bulk oil and give them a call. Sometimes heating oil companies can order you in some bulk mineral oil also, ours can but he can't beat the price that I am getting.
Good luck, hope you find a good supplier.............Tony
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 26, 2008 6:29:05 GMT -5
I'm gonna do some calling around tomorrow, thanks!!
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Post by Jack, lapidaryrough on Oct 26, 2008 7:40:34 GMT -5
check the flash point, coolant oil should be over 350 -F
Jack
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 26, 2008 8:10:41 GMT -5
Good point on high flash point. I spoke with two commercial cutters in Tucson this year that lost their shops when the deisel fuel they were using for saw oil spontaneously combusted. Both were metal buildings in hot areas.
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 26, 2008 9:39:53 GMT -5
Sure will, thanks!
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Post by fishenman on Oct 26, 2008 11:45:46 GMT -5
I don't know what the price is but I read that Chevron shingle oil will work. It's a highly refined mineral oil used on cedar shingles. It could be pricy with the Chevron name on it but, they may sell tech. grade mineral oil too.
I get mine from the local tack shop, it's used when horses get digestive problems.
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Post by Jack, lapidaryrough on Oct 28, 2008 4:48:04 GMT -5
Chevron shingle oil is what i use i bought a 55 barrel 3 year ago $162.30 + $20.00 deposit.
Flash point for the Chevron shingle oil is 361 degree F,
After filling a 16", 18", 24", A friends 12". The Barrel is M-T.
Jack
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 28, 2008 15:12:47 GMT -5
Right now with shipping I pay $85 for a 5 gallon bucket of rockhound oil from Covington. Crazy!! Does the shingle oil have any odor when cutting?
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 28, 2008 20:30:42 GMT -5
New question- I found a supplier that carries Superla in 55 gallon drums. Anyone heard of this stuff?
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Post by Jack, lapidaryrough on Oct 28, 2008 20:58:52 GMT -5
Randy the shingle oil is Oder free for the most part, I mean their is a smell to it, though not like diesel. Superla oil i don`t know about it. Run a MSDS data sheet on it for the flash point.And call Dean at Barranca. He has a mine full of the past 30 years on every coolant used. Phone # (310)-291-8828 ) for Barranca Diamond www.barrancadiamond.com/home/tec_cal.html Barranca diamond Phone 1-800-630-7682. ( Dean D ) Jack
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1rockhound
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Post by 1rockhound on Oct 29, 2008 0:05:14 GMT -5
The Superla oil you are asking about is a food grade white mineral oil. From looking at Chevrons website there are 12 different grades with flash points ranging from 309 to 514. You should have no problems using it. Though you really don't need food grade as it will cost more than the technical grade that Tony was talking about the only difference is white mineral oil is refined and packaged in a clean room and technical is not.
Jason
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Post by Bikerrandy on Oct 29, 2008 4:33:40 GMT -5
Looks like price could definately be the deciding factor, I'll let y'all know what happens. Thanks!!
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Post by stardiamond on Oct 29, 2008 18:49:08 GMT -5
I use lube cool with my cabbing machines and genie trim saw attachment. I go through a lot of it. $57 a gallon delivered from eloxite.
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