sgemmett
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Post by sgemmett on Apr 23, 2009 13:03:20 GMT -5
OK, now that I am in the section, posted this in for sale earlier, duh...
Anyone know the difference between 500 AO and 500 SC or more specifically when or why would you want to use one or the other?
Scott
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 13:40:48 GMT -5
Hi Scott, the main differences: Brown AO is great for vibes, flat-laps & crap for rotary tumblers, it breaks down in about a day or so with Moh's 7 stones. SC is a general purpose grit with no major faults other than it breaks down in about 3-4 days in a rotary with Moh's 7 stones. White AO lasts about double the time as SC in a rotary with Moh's 7 stones & it has a similar crystaline structure to SC & is a few points harder than SC! What do you use for grit?
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sgemmett
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Post by sgemmett on Apr 23, 2009 14:31:05 GMT -5
Good info, this board is great. I have some 500 AO and used it last night, it is a Chrysocola (sp?) tumble so maybe it will work, maybe not. Call it experimentation.
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10thumbs
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Post by 10thumbs on Apr 24, 2009 8:32:31 GMT -5
The difference between Silicon Carbide (SiC) and Aluminum Oxide (AlO) is that as the SiC particles break down they expose new cutting edges that remain sharp. So eventually your 500 SiC will turn into 1000 SiC which potentially could be a good thing if your rocks are ready to graduate from the 500 SiC stage. AlO particles are more round and perhaps offer a more gentle polishing action. I've never used 500 SiC but perhaps someone around here has used both 500 Sic and 500 AlO and can offer some opinions.
The color of some types of grit is very telling. Pink Cerium Oxide is optical grade. White Cerium Oxide is a much finer particle and as such will provide a better shine. In this case, were talking about 500 grit AO. The dimension of the particle is a known quantity. We're talking about the same molecule (Al2O3). So I assume that different colors would indicate different size particles or perhaps differences in purity. I would also assume that it would break down at the same rate as well.
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fanatic
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Post by fanatic on Apr 24, 2009 17:24:01 GMT -5
Both Al2O3 and SiC are a 9 on the mohs scale. Some sites even list SiC as a 9.5.
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Post by docharber on Apr 25, 2009 15:33:24 GMT -5
Yep. SC is harder than AO. I think sometimes color is added to help distinguish the products. SiC breaks dowwn into sharp shards and AO tends to round off and stop cutting. I examined a sample of SiC grit before and after a few days of tumbling, comparing 60-90 to 150/220, under 50 power magnification. The SiC did indeed shatter revealing new cutting surfaces. We discussed this in a thread a few mmonths ago and it generated a lively discussion. For most purposes, ythough, I think the two grit sizes should give comparable results. I have decided I definitely need to use a higher grade cerium oxide on my stonees or burnish thm all as a matter of routine. I'm not getting the shine I should on some materials, particularly the softer ones. Generally I use 600/700 SC as a prepoklish nd may add another step with Lusteritr prepolish (Graves' AO product) and see if it helps. Mark H.
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Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on May 1, 2009 3:12:30 GMT -5
Hi Asi Agreat link the particles of grit under the microscope show it all
Jack Yorkshire Uk
Ps and a great Idea for a small tumbler as well.
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Post by Noosh9057 on May 1, 2009 5:34:04 GMT -5
Wow a lot of great info. Thanks Roger
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