lindaf
off to a rocking start
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Jan 18, 2010 18:58:49 GMT -5
Post by lindaf on Jan 18, 2010 18:58:49 GMT -5
:help: I have been in Arizona for 3 months now and have discovered that I like picking up unusual looking rocks. I would like to begin tumbling and would like some advice on tumblers. Rotary versus vibratory? Easy to take care of and maintain? Speedy and quite? How many do you need? Can you use two, one for coarse and one for fine? So many questions, looking for some expert advice. Newbie, Linda
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Jan 18, 2010 19:41:38 GMT -5
Post by johnjsgems on Jan 18, 2010 19:41:38 GMT -5
Hi and welcome. Start with either a Lortone or Thumlers Tumbler in a double 3 lb model. As the disease progresses you will find it still handy. Master the rotary before using a vibratory model. You'll find many posts on just this subject.
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Jan 18, 2010 19:42:04 GMT -5
Post by susand24224 on Jan 18, 2010 19:42:04 GMT -5
Linda, rotaries are definitely cheaper and in my experience more mistake proof. The down side of a rotary is that it takes much longer. The down side of a vibratory is that it does not round edges as well. If you become addicted, as many here (including myself are), you may want both. If I were to only have one, it would be a rotary--but the decision is based on your budget, your error tolerance, and how well rounded you want your finished stones.
Conventional wisdom is that you want at least two barrels--one for the "grit stages" and one for polish. I have two, and I agree it is best. The reason is that unless you are compulsive about a thorough cleaning, a piece of three of grit can remain in the barrel and ruin your polish stage. This being said, I went for years with only one barrel and rarely had problems. When I did, I just backed up a stage (500 grit), ran it another week, then back to polish.
How many you need is up to you. You only need one to do a batch of rocks, but the full process (in a rotary) can take up to three months. I was quite happy with my one tumbler for years, but now have four rotaries and one vibratory tumbler. There's no reason not to start with one, though, and buy others as you feel the need.
I have a Thumler that I have now had for probably thirty years. I've had to take it apart to clean it, replaced a few belts and a few lids, but other than that, it is still grumbling away. I now also have Lortones; they are a bit quieter but so far have been maintenance free. Who knows, though, the Thumler may have improved in "noise level" in the past thirty years.
I only have one vibe, and don't feel I have enough experience to comment here--perhaps someone else can help.
Susan
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blessed
spending too much on rocks
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Jan 18, 2010 19:54:55 GMT -5
Post by blessed on Jan 18, 2010 19:54:55 GMT -5
Hello Linda, welcome. I am almost as new as you are. I only have rotary tumblers at this time. A rotary rounds and smoothes the the rocks better than a vibe. Start with a rotary doube 3# and a extra barrel for polish. Don't buy a Chicago Electric, no good. I hope this might help. Blessed
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Jan 19, 2010 1:48:32 GMT -5
Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Jan 19, 2010 1:48:32 GMT -5
Hi Linda, As most people have said start with a rotary Polisher, Even when you have a vibe if you want nice shaped rocks most people use a Rotary for stage one, Here is a link to a good 4 stage polishing cycle (RTH of course ) www.rocktumblinghobby.com/cycle/cycle.htmlAs for Tumblers the Rock shed has a good variety of both types here is a link to them www.therockshed.com/tumbler1.htmlThis will give you some Idea of the variety and cost of machines Hope this is of some assistance Have a good day Jack Yorkshire UK PS Dont under estimate Johnjsgems words . [glow=red,2,300]As the disease progresses !![/glow] Its very adictive !!
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raider30
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Jan 19, 2010 7:13:54 GMT -5
Post by raider30 on Jan 19, 2010 7:13:54 GMT -5
Dont under estimate Johnjsgems words . [glow=red,2,300]As the disease progresses !![/glow] Its very adictive !! The man speaks the truth. I got a vibe tumbler for Christmas and am working my way through my first batch of rocks, but my birthday is coming up in February. When the wife asked what I wanted the first thing that jumped from my mouth was "well...it seems like I'm really going to need a rotary tumbler to go with the vibe." Hehe, I can't wait! Good luck to you and welcome. You will find the people here are amazingly helpful, friendly, and very supportive of each other. - Beau aka Raider30
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sford13
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Jan 19, 2010 7:32:44 GMT -5
Post by sford13 on Jan 19, 2010 7:32:44 GMT -5
Yes the disease does spread quickly. I started out with a double barrel 3# Lortone last September. Now I have two double barrel 3# Lortones and am considering if a single 6# might not help out the cause. That being said I think the best prices I found for the tumblers was the Rock Shed which is where I have bought them from. Also get my grit there. If you order grit when you are buying the tumbler they even give you a discount. I would get 5# of the course.
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Haleysdream
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Jan 19, 2010 8:24:08 GMT -5
Post by Haleysdream on Jan 19, 2010 8:24:08 GMT -5
Linda, I am in the same boat as you , wanting to buy a tumbler, but which kind. I was going to order a vibe 10 from Thumlers today but now I"m not sure. To me the speed up time is with the vibes plus keeping the original shape of the rock is what I want. BUT I do want to hear the feedback from the veterans! Nancy
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lindaf
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Member since January 2010
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Jan 19, 2010 20:14:32 GMT -5
Post by lindaf on Jan 19, 2010 20:14:32 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info. ;D it is very helpful Looks like I have quite a lot to study before I make the purchases I need.
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Jan 20, 2010 4:05:34 GMT -5
Post by Jack ( Yorkshire) on Jan 20, 2010 4:05:34 GMT -5
Hi Nancy, You said [glow=red,2,300]Linda, I am in the same boat as you , wanting to buy a tumbler, but which kind. I was going to order a vibe 10 from Thumlers today but now I"m not sure. To me the speed up time is with the vibes plus keeping the original shape of the rock is what I want[/glow] Others will say the same if you want a nice shaped stone use a rotary on the First stage 60 -90 Grit This removes all the sharp corners faster and you will end up with a nicer original shaped stone IF you used a vibe and you would have to "Nurse" it every hour or 2 or 3 hours adding water or all the rocks/ grit /mud will dry up and go into concrete !!!!! (my experiance with a Lot"O") Also the barrel wear is consirable increased with the rough 60 -90 grit By all means use a vibe from 2nd Stage onwards , ( it will also polish beach pebbles from this stage, ) and polish them to this Finish (below) in 10 days to 2 weeks img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/john-edward/MaypolishVG015.jpgI'm sorry there dosent seem like like a "Cheapo" method to get the best orignal shaped rocks and the cheapest method, you need both,! Start with a rotary and as you build up your stock and experiance , then go on to a Vibe, But still using your rotary for stage one This is the method I use and many others also. This is the best of both worlds. When buying a rotary buy a good sized barrel 6lb its about 8" to9"across (Paint tin size) as this will assist the grinding action a LOT I started on 1 1/2lb barrels and gave up after 9 monts I was so disgusted at the slow progress and results If you want a good vibe Recepie see Randys advice on the top of this section OR contact Conrock (TOM) His Pm is forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/index.cgi?action=pmsend&to=connrock he will give you a link to his polishing method which is what I use, Jack Yorkshire UK
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