jimrbto
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Post by jimrbto on Mar 17, 2010 18:53:29 GMT -5
Attended a show this past weekend and there met a gentleman selling a new (to me anyway) cutting oil. Sounds wonderful, mild smell, cleans easily, biodegradable, gentle to skin, non-toxic, flashpoint 295 deg. and less expensive. 5 gallons = $40.00. The name is Plazma Cutting Oil or see: www.plazmacuttingoils.comAnyone here heard of or used this oil before? Jim |
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Mar 17, 2010 19:30:39 GMT -5
I don't have a saw that uses oil, but try to read ll I can about them here. For some reason it sounds farmiliar.... Maybe it's plasma agate I'm thinking of...
Nate
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Post by deb193redux on Mar 17, 2010 19:59:49 GMT -5
The price is good, but some details are mising.
It is annoying that an oil being marketed fo slab saws would not mention the viscosity.
The flash point is OK, but somewhat lower then mineral oil.
So does bio-degradable mean it can go down the drain?
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Post by stonesthatrock on Mar 17, 2010 21:48:04 GMT -5
i thnk that might be the oil that ralph and i bought at quartzsite a couple years ago. Its not bad but for us because we do so much cutting, it broke down faster, so we went back to mineral oil.
tony bought some too this year, maybe he will give his view on it.
mary ann
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Post by catmandewe on Mar 17, 2010 23:58:46 GMT -5
I bought some to use at Quartzsite and I spent quite a bit of time talking with the gentleman who makes and markets the stuff.
It works pretty good, but breaks down pretty fast, so would require cleaning quite a bit more often. I used it in a HP 16" saw and cut most of the day with it. It sludged up within a week, whereas straight mineral oil will usually last about a month or so before completely sludging up, of course alot depends on the material you are cutting. I took some to Burro Creek because it is bio degradeable and thus does not damage anything when you clean the saw out. The pastelite material at Burro Creek sludged the oil up in a matter of hours instead of days, but the oil was easy to dispose of. I tried filtering the sludge out of it but it breaks down enough that it doesn't filter easily and what did filter through didn't seem to be oil that you could reuse.
If you don't cut all the time it would be a pretty good oil to use, as you can just throw it out when you are done, but if you are going to cut alot I would stick with a good mineral oil.
Too bad cause I really like the dealer and was thinking of becoming a distributor for his oil, but I would probably be my own best customer!
Well thats' my 2 cents worth.
Have a great day............Tony
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Post by Woodyrock on Mar 18, 2010 0:31:40 GMT -5
The drum price is still higher than white mineral oil. The biodegradeable is a good thing, if it actually is. Down side is not being able to recover the oil from the sludge. That makes it much more expensive compared to mineral oil.
Just my two cents worth.
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slabbercabber
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Post by slabbercabber on Mar 22, 2010 19:42:12 GMT -5
I use this oil myself, but I only pay $4.20 a gallon. Where I buy it, it is called biodiesel.
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jimrbto
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Post by jimrbto on Mar 22, 2010 21:07:40 GMT -5
O.K. Slabber, now can you offer any response to the other shortcomings as pointed out by the others above. Will it filter? Does it breakdown quickly? I am from the old kerosene school.!
Thanks--
Jim
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slabbercabber
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Post by slabbercabber on Mar 26, 2010 18:33:23 GMT -5
The oil does not break down but it does suspend sludge much worse than mineral oil. I use a double setting system and pump under the saw so this is not as great a problem as most saw that simply run the blade through the oil. It is almost impossible to filter. Viscosity is about the same as hydraulic oil but much easier on your lungs and skin. The flash point is considerably higher than mineral oil and almost double that of kerosene. By the way, kerosene is not only hard on your lungs, it is a carcinogen and has started a lot of fires when used as cutting oil. Biodiesel is not ideal, but it is cheap and easy to dispose of. I use it along with the sludge to stabilize our 1/2 mile lane.
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