travlinrose
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Post by travlinrose on Dec 13, 2010 2:08:17 GMT -5
:help: I just purchased an old Highland Park 8 " saw that was refurbished and I need to know what kind of oil to use. I seem to recall a discussion I read on the boards, but I cannot seem to find it. I would like one that does not leave me smelling like I have been working on cars all day. I cannot get the smell out of my shirt, even with an apron on. the spray gets me. Did I see someone mentioned mineral oil or some brand oil that was decent and not so toxic? Covington?
Also, I thought I heard of an additive that keeps the oil from being so messy... a de-mister or something?? what is it? where do you get it?
Any advice I would appreciate. I have worked on slab/trim saws but never had one so I need advice on maintaining it. it is too old to have documentation with it of course.
Thanks!
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Post by catmandewe on Dec 13, 2010 4:10:16 GMT -5
If you are going to trim with it use water, just make sure you clean it out when you are done everytime. If you are going to slab with it, get baby oil, it smells good and is good on your hands. It is essentially light mineral oil with a fragrance added. The fragrance wears out pretty quickly though.
Have fun, looking forward to seeing what you are cutting.
Tony
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drjo
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Post by drjo on Dec 13, 2010 9:25:02 GMT -5
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Post by jakesrocks on Dec 13, 2010 10:01:20 GMT -5
Diamond Pacific bought all of HP's patterns and spare parts many years ago. They may be able to supply you with some documentation.
Don
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Post by johnjsgems on Dec 13, 2010 10:18:15 GMT -5
DP sells a nice food grade mineral oil at only $30 per gal. Light weight or food grade mineral oils will work well. Food grades would be odorless. As far as manuals you can call them but I doubt they would have anything. You could ask for a manual for their Model 10TS-B. It looks a lot like a 10" HP. Basic care/operation would be same for any metal saw. Most important thing is fill only enough to cover the cutting rim of blade. Overfilling will show you why many use water.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Dec 13, 2010 12:07:02 GMT -5
Walmart baby oil works great in a smaller saw like my ten incher. Costs about 15-18$ per gallon and smells good. Covington Rockhound Oil, I get delivered to my door step for $114 per five gallon can. It is a fine oil for any rock saw size. Mineral oil for horses is supposedly good too but huge range in price on that stuff, $20-30 per gallon...Mel
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papat
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Post by papat on Dec 13, 2010 12:20:01 GMT -5
Tractor supply has mineral oil 14.99 gal
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blarneystone
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Post by blarneystone on Dec 13, 2010 13:35:23 GMT -5
Yep... I agree with Mel. Baby oil is what I use in my 12" saw.... and if the cashier gives you a funny look at the check out.... just tell her you're having a party and then ask where the kiddy pools and shower curtains are located.... lol... ;D
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greaser
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Post by greaser on Dec 13, 2010 14:12:02 GMT -5
Then invite her lol
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 13, 2010 16:07:16 GMT -5
With a 8" saw theres no need for oil even if you occasionally use it to cut slabs. Use a sintered blade like a Barranca 303C and either use one of the additives they sell in rock shops or use rain-x windshield cleaner, either will keep the blade from rusting and extend the blade life. Heres the blade. I think John may have these for about the same price. cgi.ebay.com/rle-8-x-032-PROFESSIONAL-Continuous-Rim-DIAMOND-BLADE-/130458267580?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5feb2fbc Remember with a 8 inch blade you should not cut anything thicker than about 2 1/2 inches, and I would not even try to slab that thick unless the saw has a vice or slab guide. Maintennance is pretty simple. If the shaft bearings have a grease fitting or oil cup be sure to add a little every couple hours of use. When you start having to add more coolant per cutting session it's probably time to clean the mud out of the sump. Most of all, have fun! Lee
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travlinrose
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Post by travlinrose on Dec 13, 2010 18:41:25 GMT -5
THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE GREAT ADVICE AND SUGGESTIONS!!!! I am not doing production per se, but you would not believe the number of slabs I have to work on right now... I am the OJ queen! I LOVE IT! We have a lapidary shop here in the park, so I will use the big saws for big rocks and slabbing. But I have some small agates I can cut on this and it also comes with a manual feed vice.
Thanks for the suggestion and advice on the saw blade and bearings. I have to check that out, when it arrives, as I am not sure about what kind of bearings it has. All I know is it is one solid son of a gun... and it looks like a superior refurb was done on it. I do think the blade is ok but might be a little thick.
Please clarify something for me... what exactly does "sintered" mean? I have seen that used in different contexts in regards to saws and tools, and I don't understand it.
it is really interesting that water is ok to use when I am just trimming... but oil if I slab. Can I use both with the same saw blade if I dry and clean it up real well?
What is "tool cool"? Is it an anti-rust additive to put in water? Can you use it with a demister or Rain X too?
All very excellent points from everyone and I thank you. I am giddy with excitement over gettin my own little shop set up. I just refurbished an old Star Diamond cabbing machine and refitted it with diamond grit grinding wheels too. YIPPPEEE!!!
muchas gracias!!! and if you think of anything else, I will return!
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Post by jakesrocks on Dec 13, 2010 18:52:32 GMT -5
You mention a manual feed vise on your saw. It could very easily be turned into a weight feed, and might give better cutting results.
Don
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travlinrose
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Post by travlinrose on Dec 13, 2010 18:57:01 GMT -5
I just went to the Barranca Diamond website and they say re: the 303C blade--" Water is not suitable to use with these blades" sooooooo??
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travlinrose
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Post by travlinrose on Dec 13, 2010 19:13:49 GMT -5
I am going to start another thread about saw blades... so don't worry about answering here. Thanks!
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 13, 2010 19:46:39 GMT -5
on an 8" saw oil in no needed. Maybe some water plus additive (like RV antifreeze).
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