robbiejohn
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Post by robbiejohn on Apr 19, 2011 18:45:10 GMT -5
Hello all! Happy Spring. I have a question that someone out there may be able to answer. I'm the lucky guy who found so many good deals on equipment and machinery. I'm just getting around to preparing for slab cutting. The saw I scored is a venerable Lortone LS14C chop/drop saw. Everything, including a good working motor is there except for the coolant pump. The Lortone catalogue lists it as no longer available through them. I do know that the pump was a Teel brand and was bought by Lortone from Grainger. Grainger has been very kind but needs to know the model number for the oil coolant pump so they can sell me an original or another pump to do the same job. Hence my question: can anyone with one of these saws send me the Teel model number or the name and number for any other pump that will work? Thanks in advance and happy cutting/cabbing to all! Robbiejohn
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 19, 2011 19:28:21 GMT -5
Robbie: I used to have one of those saws ( before I got pissed off at it and killed it with a sledge hammer) and the pump that came with it was a piece of crap. Quit constantly and was not strong enough to pump coolant to the blade through the two tubes unless the oil was very clean. When the oil started carrying a bit of sludge, the pump quit working. I'd go to my local hardware store and get a small sump pump and modify the saw to run the oil down to a bucket you can put the pump into and use a much stronger pump. May as well do the modification anyway because that saw is a bitch to clean as the whole heavy top section of the unit must be lifted from the oil tray to clean it properly. Fair warning too, the blade that drops onto the rock is not heavy enough to cut hard rock when the blade gets worn so you have to make a set of weights to add to the blade arm. Super messy saw too that throws oil everywhere. Be prepared to wear a good mask and build some kind of cover to catch some of the mist....Mel
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spokanetim
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Post by spokanetim on Apr 19, 2011 21:41:05 GMT -5
Robbie, I've got one and reconditioned a few months ago. You can read my trial's and tribulations here, forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/index.cgi?board=sawingb&action=display&thread=42695. I tried and failed to make it a water saw. After the failed water attempt switched it back to oil. I bought a Little Giant sump pump for maybe $65 and plumbed it back to the blade. For oil I bought cheep ag hydraulic fluid. After three month with quiet a bit of cutting I'd agree that the saw's not great but it's not that bad either. My pump has no problem with clean or really dirty oil. I had to clean the saw this weekend not because the oil was too dirty but because the oil was about to overflow from the tray. The rock dust/sludge had displaced the oil in the tray. Cleaning the thing is NOT fun, even though the pump was able to pump out most the oil. Lifting the saw from the tray (very heavy) and scraping out the 1" of compacted rock sludge sucks. That said it does the job. It's loud, needed to add some weights, occasionally spits oil to the side but it will make short work of any rock I've put into it. Tim
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quartz
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Post by quartz on Apr 19, 2011 22:00:34 GMT -5
The Teel # on ours is 1P731
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Post by parfive on Apr 19, 2011 22:58:37 GMT -5
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robbiejohn
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Post by robbiejohn on Apr 21, 2011 15:50:48 GMT -5
Thanks to Mel, Tim, Quartz and Parfive for prompt and helpful replies. I've found a useful and more efficient replacement for less money. Mel, I've put my sledge hammer out of reach for the meantime. As beggars can't be choosers, I'll give this old saw at least one chance to produce before the rough treatment. Thanks to all! Robbiejohn.
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 21, 2011 16:39:31 GMT -5
Robbie: I have little patience for machines so that saw was not a good fit for me ( not to mention my wife hated the mess it made in the garage *L*) One thing that was really a pain was when the coolant pump shut down, and it did so without warning, the blade with the added necessary weights, would bind up in the cut, overheat, and dish, rendering it a piece of garbage. Got to admit, I have a temper and the friggin thing did that just once too often and I got some degree of satisfaction killing the holy crap out of that contrary bastich with that hammer. I think the neighbors got a kick out of the show too, though they had to cover their ears if they was sensitive to blue language. *L* All that aside though, if I sat beside it and babysitted it through each cut, keeping a very close eye on the coolant supply etc. it cut pretty well and was fast too. Plus the drop saw concept aligns your blade with the rock pretty well and for a 14" saw it would make pretty large cuts....Mel
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prairiedog41
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Post by prairiedog41 on Apr 22, 2011 1:26:58 GMT -5
Robbiejohn, is it possible that you could share what your "useful and more efficient replacement for less money" was?
I have a Spartan 12in. drop saw (same as a Lortone) and would like to find a better pump. Water doesn't lube too well and I am winding up having to use light mineral oil (not cheap) to keep it pumping at a sufficient flow.
-=Will=-
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Post by rockmanken on Apr 22, 2011 7:11:49 GMT -5
I replaced mine with a Lil Giant pump, too, but be warned. It really pumps out the oil. On the other one I replaced it with a pump from Harbor Freight that was less than $20. It works great, too. Sold it. Other one is sitting idle. Replaced it with a used 12" lortone. Have a Raytech 10" that I am going to sell, also. Ken
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