Roan
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 0:35:46 GMT -5
Okay, lemme say up front that I can do a lot of jewelry stuff, but wire wrapping leaves me with 10 thumbs. I need help  I have a stock pin -- charm pin? -- it has three loops:  I need to wire beads to it horizontally, so it looks like this:  Does that example look like the beads were strung on thick wire and then tied to the pin? I can't tell. I want to do a better job than that, that's for sure. Now, I can lose the three loops on the pins I bought, but I thought they might make wrapping easier. Can anyone help me? Point me to some tutorial or something? Thanks Eileen |
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 6:54:46 GMT -5
I have no idea, but I can tell you that I see monofilament line securing the beads to the pin. Aside from that, I'm lost. Yah, I saw the fishing line, too. Considering they want $38 for this stock pin, the fact that I can see the line is kinda cheesy. Maybe I'll just copy what this person has done, then. I'd like to have a more professional way of doing this, though. Thanks Eileen |
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Post by lisatech on Dec 8, 2011 8:35:27 GMT -5
I don't think you will be able to match the stock pin with the blank that you have because of the flat rings and because your blank only has one wire to wrap onto instead of two the stock pin shows - the beads sit in between the two wires.
From what I have seen in online instructions (I'll post the link if I still have it), the idea is to put the beads together as a single string, lay it on to the blank (sits between the two wires) there is a wire wrap at the left end of the blank that will serve as an anchor to tie the fishing line. Then you lay the beads in between the two wires, snug them up to the end that is anchored. There should be a spot at the other end to anchor as well then you go back over the strand, wrapping the fishing line around both wires but going in between each bead. Going in between each bead is what gives the side to side stability. You should end up at the starting end and tie off the fishing line close to where you anchored the string to start with.
I also recall someone posting that you can also start with the anchor and add a new bead to the string, wrap that back and around in between the last bead and the new bead. Then pass the line through the middle of the new string again, ready to string the next bead... That method seems a bit more tedious to me...
Hope that helps with what you are trying to achieve...
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Roan
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 11:25:59 GMT -5
I don't think you will be able to match the stock pin with the blank that you have because of the flat rings and because your blank only has one wire to wrap onto instead of two the stock pin shows - the beads sit in between the two wires. . . . Hrm. I think that pin only has one wire. It's a standard plain stock pin. The beads are pulled right onto to the doubled wire section and are drooping in the single. I did manage to remove the loops and wire some beads to the pin. It looked comparable to the beaded one, but I don't have any clear line or wire to finish it. I'll have to buy some. If you find those online instructions, would you please post a link? I'd love to see them. Thanks Eileen |
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Post by gerard on Dec 8, 2011 12:16:21 GMT -5
You can just run the beads on a piece of gold wire (I would 19 or 20 ga half hard gold filled round) then shape the wire into the pin. it is not too difficult.
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Post by gerard on Dec 8, 2011 12:24:40 GMT -5
OK I attached a crude sketch of how i would make that pin - good luck Attachments:
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Roan
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 17:03:23 GMT -5
You can just run the beads on a piece of gold wire (I would 19 or 20 ga half hard gold filled round) then shape the wire into the pin. it is not too difficult. I'll try making one from scratch as well. Unfortunately, 19 or 20 gauge won't make it through the bead holes. I think the largest wire I can use is 22g, and that may not be strong enough. I'll play with it and see. Thanks a bunch! Eileen |
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Post by gerard on Dec 8, 2011 20:44:44 GMT -5
I make handmade pins all the time and find that 19 ga 1/2 hard is best, but hole size is definitely an issue - 22 may be too light for the pin to easily push through fabric the pin will be stuck on.
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Post by aunuts on Dec 8, 2011 21:30:53 GMT -5
How about using the 22 ga wire in the same way they used the fishing line. Simply substitute the wire. Dead soft may be the easiest to make it do what you want. Will that work?
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 23:33:56 GMT -5
I make handmade pins all the time and find that 19 ga 1/2 hard is best, but hole size is definitely an issue - 22 may be too light for the pin to easily push through fabric the pin will be stuck on. Exactly. Eileen |
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Post by Roan on Dec 8, 2011 23:37:17 GMT -5
How about using the 22 ga wire in the same way they used the fishing line. Simply substitute the wire. Dead soft may be the easiest to make it do what you want. Will that work? jo Too wide and makes a gap between the beads. I first tried tying it off with 26 gauge wire and it makes a real mess. Not flexible enough. I can see why the person who made the pin used fishing line. Well, at least I know mine will be comparable to the one they're asking $38 for. I'll be selling mine for $10-$15. They're to match the browbands I make for horses:  Eileen |
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Post by NatureNut on Dec 9, 2011 7:38:39 GMT -5
And if the round ringy thingys get in the way, you can snip them off with a pair of nippers. Jo
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Post by Roan on Dec 9, 2011 12:01:11 GMT -5
And if the round ringy thingys get in the way, you can snip them off with a pair of nippers. Jo That's exactly what I did, Jo! A plain stock pin, sold as a "stock pin", runs $3 (small) to $16 (large). And those are base metal pins, too. I bought ten of these charm pins in the large size for $3, plus shipping. Great deal. Eileen |
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Post by lisatech on Dec 9, 2011 18:46:23 GMT -5
Nice browband, Eileen - a friend of mine has been making browbands for a couple of years now too. Nothing like a nice bit of sparkly bling for dressing up a horse... Lol - I used to raise eyebrows 15 years ago when I found a nice crystal browband for a black mare I was riding - oh, so pretty!!
Hope you find the right stock pin blanks...
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Post by Roan on Dec 9, 2011 19:27:24 GMT -5
Nice browband, Eileen - a friend of mine has been making browbands for a couple of years now too. Nothing like a nice bit of sparkly bling for dressing up a horse... Lol - I used to raise eyebrows 15 years ago when I found a nice crystal browband for a black mare I was riding - oh, so pretty!! Hope you find the right stock pin blanks... Thanks, Lisatech  Eileen |
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