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Post by Woodyrock on Jan 30, 2012 2:48:52 GMT -5
In addition to communicating with the local Air Traffic Control facility, all aircraft in the Persian Gulf AOR are required to give the Iranian Air Defense Radar (military) a ten minute 'heads up' if they will be transiting Iranian airspace.
The following TRUE conversation was heard on the VHF Guard (emergency) frequency 121.5 MHz. Iranian Air Defense Radar: 'Unknown aircraft you are in Iranian airspace. Identify yourself.' Aircraft: 'This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi airspace.' Air Defense Radar: 'You are in Iranian airspace. If you do not depart our airspace we will launch interceptor aircraft!' Aircraft: 'This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait.' Air Defense Radar: (total silence) Semper Fi !!
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Post by kk on Jan 30, 2012 6:26:11 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :help: ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 30, 2012 8:05:53 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that's our boys!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 30, 2012 8:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by grayfingers on Jan 30, 2012 10:35:47 GMT -5
Wow, it is a rare day that Adrian posts in a political thread! Sweet. I have to admit, I for one had rather conveniently forgotten about that incident.
I have a good friend in Germany who has told me that for the most part, Europe sees us as the aggressor in the middle east. If not for our commitment to Israel and the need to keep oil flowing, I would be in favor of not interfering in Iran's nuclear program. If Europe is willing to take the risk, perhaps we should respect that.
Bill
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Post by adrian65 on Jan 30, 2012 10:40:48 GMT -5
I simply thought it's not the best subject to make a joke about, if the joke's story kinda happened for real, vice versa, claiming 290 real lives. That's all.
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Post by mohs on Jan 30, 2012 11:28:47 GMT -5
full speed ahead
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Post by grayfingers on Jan 30, 2012 11:39:02 GMT -5
lol Ed... Adrian's point is a good one, and true. We red-blooded Americans sometimes forget to look at the other side of the coin.
Bill
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Jan 30, 2012 14:02:50 GMT -5
Yes, I remember the Vincennes incident. I read some of the investigations in about 1989-1990 and made a timeline of events. I didn't read the full account in wikipedia, but as I recall (and I'm not trying to justify American actions), the airliner was not right in the middle of the air corridor, whereas they _always_ flew right down the middle. So that made it suspicious.
It was also reported that they got a radio hook on an F-14. Speculation was that it was taking off from another airport about the same time. Meanwhile, the Vincennes was chasing down some Iranian Boston Whalers that had fired upon her.
Anyway, surely a tragedy and in part due no doubt to the fog of war.
Chuck
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Post by Woodyrock on Jan 31, 2012 1:15:39 GMT -5
Adrian, and all: This incident was recent. I fully agree the Vincennes incident was a tragedy. Errors occur in battle...always have, and likely always will. Today errors like this happen less frequently than they did in the past, and that is good. If you look at the history of the Civil War in the United States, at the beginning months uniforms were so varied that some Southern units wore blue uniforms, some northern had grey, then there were Zouave companies that were identical on both sides. Many men died by friendly fire in the heat (and dense smoke) of battle. During WWII the allies deliberately target German civilian areas .....one reason was they were not so heavily defended. That is not done today by US or British forces. Woody
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