herchenx
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Post by herchenx on Feb 25, 2012 22:31:14 GMT -5
Made this hastily for my mother in law when she said she thought this stone would make a nice pendant. -update, made another, Tahoma Jasper And my 12-year old made he own with one of her rocks.
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NDK
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Post by NDK on Feb 25, 2012 23:23:15 GMT -5
Not bad John. Gotta start somewhere, and this is a good start.
Nate
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herchenx
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Post by herchenx on Feb 25, 2012 23:38:22 GMT -5
Thanks Nate. Some day I will look back at this in horror, but I am trying to show progression from absolute beginner for others who may come along.
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Post by NatureNut on Feb 26, 2012 0:09:42 GMT -5
A good solid start. I see potential! Enjoy them, they will always be special. Jo
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unclestu
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Post by unclestu on Feb 26, 2012 8:24:09 GMT -5
I have to say this and please don't anyone take it in the wrong way. It is human nature to want to show off your work. Everyone likes to receive positive affirmation a job well done. However I must say that John has been willing from the very start to put it all out there not just the better examples. His posts are an open book showing the occaisional stumble as well as the many triumphs. Through the documentaion of his evolution we get inspired by his sucess and we learn by his mistakes. When I say mistakes I am refering to those instances that John pointed out to us. It takes a very special person to be willing to put it ALL out there for everyone to see. Thanks John Stu
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Post by FrogAndBearCreations on Feb 26, 2012 9:24:11 GMT -5
Great start!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 9:48:29 GMT -5
I agree with Stu but I have another two cents worth.
I have sold a bunch of pendants wrapped exactly the same way. A lot of people like a simple wrap that shows off the stone instead of a bunch of frills that take the eye away from the stone which is the focal point. If I do not drill a stone I still wrap many cabs the same way and will continue as long as they sell. Most of my first wraps were done with copper but the gift shop owner told me that I missed several sales because of it. The majority of the people want silver but some are coming around to copper because the cost of silver necklaces has shot up drastically. I sell single strand and braided leather necklaces so people can buy something that goes with the copper wraps. Copper wire in a huge variety of sizes is free if you look hard enough.
For me the time involved in doing a fancy wrap is out of the question. I make hundreds of cabs and fancy wrapping probably doubles the time spent on a cab. I can do a wrap like Johns in just a few minutes. If you want to add a little pazzazz to that wrap John just twist two wires together and do it the same way. I guarantee you will get some nice compliments on your pendants.
OK, that was about five cents worth but you deserve the cuddose John. (even spell check can not figure that one out) lol Jim
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herchenx
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Post by herchenx on Feb 26, 2012 10:44:53 GMT -5
Thanks Stu and all,
I did want to put my earliest attempts out there for the reasons you mentioned. I have no illusions about these being "good", I just hope that they allow someone else new to see what they can expect from day 1, week 3, etc. these were definitely "day 1" attempts.
For me, the value in these lies in the fun I had selecting stones, using new tools and materials, and the knowledge that "I" put the effort into tumbling the stones.
To Jim's point I am trying to get the simplest stuff understood, for 2 reasons. If I can't do "simple" I can't do "complex" and I do love to show off the stone, particularly (in my case) in the absence of skill with wire.
I honestly don't know if I will ever try for elaborate wraps. I got into this because of the stones,so unless I get hooked on wrapping, too, it is only so I can have an excuse to share them in a meaningful way.
Thanks all for your kind words, honest feedback and unmerited praise. Hopefully I can help others forward in the same ways you all help me.
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Post by TByrd on Feb 26, 2012 10:48:09 GMT -5
Nice job. Glad to sdede thzy your daughter stzrted has come along for the ride.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 26, 2012 12:46:05 GMT -5
looks like a good start to me, do you have any pictures of the backs? maybe a close up of the bail area at the back? Thanks for posting, Chuck
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Post by herchenx on Feb 26, 2012 15:30:52 GMT -5
Chuck, here is the back of my second wrap, the Tahoma:
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Post by helens on Feb 26, 2012 18:32:20 GMT -5
I agree with Unclestu. It's nice to show that people don't just pick up some materials, tools and boom, make the pieces you can see here much of the time. Reason that matters is because when someone new tries it, and it doesn't look right, they give up because they think they don't have a knack for it, when really, they didn't put in the practice. The top top pieces people see here are often the results of many failed experiments and imperfect efforts.
But technique aside, your wrapping MOSTLY looks different because you used different wire compared to the other wraps here:P. If you look at some of the directions... what you need is a very specific 22 gauge half hard or dead soft square wire to achieve the effects you are seeing with the wrapping.
While I haven't tried actual wrapping a stone, I have done a little bit of wire work (headpins mostly), and the biggest thing that requires the skill is the ability to wrap TIGHT to the next coil. People good at it don't even think about it, but for a rank beginner, it can be challenging, especially when using stiffer lower gauge wires.
When I look at your back, it looks just like my wraps:P. hehe. And trying to get that smooth tight coil with exactly the same depth for each coil is probably the first important skill (that I haven't mastered either). It's why I never moved on to buying the nice square sterling 21-22 gauge wire. If I can't do a simple coil perfectly, I'm not going to do a better job with more expensive wires.
Once you get that part down, then I'll bet you will move very quickly to the fancier types of wrap:).
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Post by hulagrub on Feb 26, 2012 19:18:50 GMT -5
Not bad at all, John. A lot better than I did after more than one attempt. I leave the wrapping up to my wife!
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Post by jspencer on Feb 26, 2012 23:00:33 GMT -5
John my first attempts at wrapping left me with a brain stall in design and died an ugly death by wire cutter. I have only done 3 myself and find I need to really stop and think along the way about how it looks and how I want it to look. I am like the others who like a simple wrap that does not distract from the stone itself. I have seen some spectacular wrapping designs on here and wish I could wrap like that. Many would look great with no stone involved they are so nice. Keep it up, you are doing great at everything else you have undertaken.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Feb 27, 2012 13:15:20 GMT -5
Thanks for adding the picture of the back, shows good detail of how it was done. Chuck
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