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Post by sheltie on Sept 21, 2012 15:11:29 GMT -5
I need a source from which to buy slab saw oil. It was recommended for my new saw (HP 16") that I use either Shell Diala AX (recently renamed to S2 ZXA) or Texaco Almag (now named Bright NHG). Shell doesn't sell Diala in anything less than 55 gallon drum quantities and the closest source to me for the Almag can only meet me on rare occasion as he drives by on the interstate! Not the best of situations.
Is there anyplace on the internet that sells and ships in quantities of five gallons? I'm not interested in any kind of mineral oil at this point, although I may be forced to go that route if no other exists.
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 21, 2012 15:19:26 GMT -5
S2 ZXA is a highly refined mineral oil
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Sept 21, 2012 15:29:08 GMT -5
What's wrong with mineral oil?
Chuck
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Post by Don on Sept 21, 2012 15:38:50 GMT -5
yeah, I don't get the need for fancy oils. regular old mineral oil works great.
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Post by snuffy on Sept 21, 2012 15:44:03 GMT -5
All I've ever used is hydraulic oil in my 16 and 18 HP's,with no problem.Usually get it when on sale at O'Reillys.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 21, 2012 15:52:41 GMT -5
I don't think the Texaco Almag and the Bright NGH are the same thing. Texaco Almag Oil is a straight mineral oil, while the "Bright-cut NGH" is has no more than 30% mineral oil by weight (actually "0 to 30%.") The rest is kerosene and other distillates. The Bright-cut NHG is actually a metal cutting fluid. You can buy it from Alexis Oil www.alexisoil.com/chevron-lubricants/metalworking. They are located in Corona, CA and Phoenix, AZ. Here's a link to the MSDS (Material Data Safety Sheet) for it: www.alexisoil.com/sites/default/files/chevron-bright-cut-ngh-metalworking-fluid.pdfNow, after you read the MSDS, do you still want to use this? Cost for a 5 gallon bucket is $72.02, plus a $20 charge for the bucket, plus shipping, whatever that comes to. You can probably just call them at the number on their website for that info. Lastly, here's some more people's thoughts on saw lubricants www.gemcutters.org/LDA/TrimSawLubricants.htm. Can't find any dates on this ILA forum, but some of the information may still be good. I wish you luck. Jean |
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 21, 2012 15:59:19 GMT -5
Go to your local Tractor Supply and buy the lightest grade of hydraulic fluid they have. If you don't like the smell, go to Wally World and buy a quart of their baby oil to dump in with the mix. It's all mineral oil, just like the many times more expensive lapidary mineral oil.
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Post by snuffy on Sept 21, 2012 16:03:12 GMT -5
Yep,bought theirs too.
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Post by Steve on Sept 21, 2012 16:17:58 GMT -5
I've started using horse laxative.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2012 16:33:10 GMT -5
I've started using horse laxative. Dude, I wish I knew you better. This opens so many doors! lol Thanks everyone for the input to this thread. I am sure to be close to getting a saw. |
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Post by riverbendlapidary on Sept 21, 2012 17:23:12 GMT -5
I guarantee the NHG is alot different and alot better than Almag. I get mine in 5 gal buckets from Don Stewart Inc
7110 E Ben White Blvd, Austin, TX 78741-7700
5123850510
I paid around $75 per bucket
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 21, 2012 17:55:31 GMT -5
I've been buying my food grade mineral oil from Allied Kenko Sales two gallons at a time. Just got a catalog and the current price is $19.95/gal, plus shipping. They are located in Houston, TX. Neat company, they "cater to the home butcher and outdoor cook." They sell foodmaking supplies for making sausages, other foods, dang, even giant bandsaws for cutting up meat! If you decide you want to go with mineral oil, I also found another place online, Clarion Lubricants www.clarionlubricants.com/ProductList.do Food grade white mineral oil is less than $65 for 5 gallon pail, plus shipping, of course. They are also in Houston, TX. They do sell through distributors, use the "Clarion Locator" on their web page. Jean |
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Post by blackout5783 on Sept 21, 2012 18:03:22 GMT -5
If you just want to go with mineral oil try www.soaperschoice.com. They have 35 lb (about 5 gal) containers for either $35 or $47 plus shipping depending on the viscosity. The company is called Columbus Foods, located outside Chicago. I found that place because my wife and I bought our veg oils from there when we used to make soap. Happy slabbing! Sent from my DROID3 using proboards |
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Post by sheltie on Sept 21, 2012 19:07:14 GMT -5
I guarantee the NHG is alot different and alot better than Almag. I get mine in 5 gal buckets from Don Stewart Inc 7110 E Ben White Blvd, Austin, TX 78741-7700 5123850510 I paid around $75 per bucket That's where I'm supposedly getting mine for $69.25 for 5 gallons. That's if I can stop him while he is traveling north on I-35 through Georgetown! ;D I REALLY want to get to work on the 10lb piece of rough from the Woodward Ranch that my wife and I bought from you earlier this Spring. To those who question why I don't go to mineral oil - the manufacturer specifically recommends either Shell or Texaco Almag OR a HIGH grade mineral oil (what's high grade?). Being brand new to all this, I decided that initially I'd prefer to follow their instructions. Additionally, I don't have anyone close by who can tutor me as I try to learn what to do. Perhaps after I get more used to this I'll modify how I do it and what I use, but for now... |
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Post by sheltie on Sept 21, 2012 19:10:56 GMT -5
An adendum to the above.
In the manual that came with my saw, it states that to break in a new blade you should cut through a 220 grit silicon carbide grinding wheel stub two or three times. I give up, what it that and where can I get one?
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 21, 2012 19:47:52 GMT -5
Go to your local building supply store and buy a couple of fire bricks. They'll work just as good as an old SC grinding wheel.
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 21, 2012 20:11:24 GMT -5
Or just cut some obsidian. It takes a few more cuts to dress a blade but you end up with slabs you can do something with.
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Post by quartz on Sept 21, 2012 20:42:17 GMT -5
If you have a machine shop within travel reason, see if they have a worn out one available, or perhaps would save one for you.
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Post by Steve on Sept 21, 2012 21:19:27 GMT -5
I've started using horse laxative. Dude, I wish I knew you better. This opens so many doors! lol Thanks everyone for the input to this thread. I am sure to be close to getting a saw. Ha -- guess on re-reading this was not one of my more unambiguous posts. Please add -- FOR ROCK SAW OIL!! It's much cheaper than having mineral oil shipped. |
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 21, 2012 21:26:53 GMT -5
The S2 ZXA is a mineral oil, but it is very light. the viscosity is about 55 SUS compared to food grade or horse laxative mineral which is about SUS 70.
I suspect the manufacturer has had that recommendation for a long time, and there is a fair amount of momentum. I suspect that while blades have changed over the years with stronger stainless steel cores and better industrial diamonds, a lot of ther recommendations are still sort of old-timer.
As for the SC grinding wheel, you could us AO which is at every hardware store, or I can say ditto on the fire brick. that is what I use.
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