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Post by parfive on Oct 25, 2012 15:14:53 GMT -5
One guy says you can’t get pregnant from a legitimate rape. The next one says rape babies are Gifts from God, so the first guy’s gotta be wrong, no? Or is the first guy right and the second guy means that only illegimate rape babies come with a gift card from God? That’s conceivable, I suppose, cause the legitimate ones are inconceivable. Right?
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Post by fmelvis on Oct 25, 2012 15:32:49 GMT -5
i think its the other way around
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 25, 2012 15:37:05 GMT -5
*L* That's thimply incomthievable! Obviously both guys are kind of idiots regarding the subject. I do believe there are some times when abortion should be acceptable but am really opposed to abortion of convenience. A baby conceived from a rape is of course, still an innocent being killed, so I really don't know about the morality of killing it for something that is not it's fault, but I do understand why the mother might want to do so as it would be a constant reminder of the violence she was subject to.....Mel
PS: Of course you're confused Rich, you've still a pro Obama democrat. You're either confused, gullible or dumber than a sack of hammers. I know you ain't dumb, so lets go with confused *L*
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Post by helens on Oct 25, 2012 16:54:28 GMT -5
Would solve all confusion if men could be raped, then forced to get fat for 9 months afterwards, then forced to see their rapist for 'visitation rights'.
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Post by helens on Oct 25, 2012 16:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Oct 25, 2012 17:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Oct 25, 2012 17:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 18:32:45 GMT -5
I can de confuse you Rich. All reps are dumber than a bag of hammers. Quite simple really. A six inch rod stuck up some of these guy's butt would be less than sufficient. Insanity. Jim
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Post by Thunder69 on Oct 25, 2012 18:51:33 GMT -5
Would solve all confusion if men could be raped....then forced to see their rapist
Hey Helen it's called prison lol....John
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Post by Pat on Oct 25, 2012 19:03:26 GMT -5
You're not confused.
The government should stay out of our doctor's office and out of our bedroom.
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Post by helens on Oct 26, 2012 0:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 7:39:30 GMT -5
Why in the hell is this man out of prison before that child is an old person? There had to be about 10 laws broken besides the rape. Child endangerment, statutory rape, kidnapping, with the possibilities of breaking and entering, trespassing and a bunch I do not know about. Parents are locked up for neglect of a child for probably about the same amount of time that guy must have spent in prison. A woman here got five years for defrauding the government for a pittance. China has it right, just shoot the bastard and no more worries. Rapists are not cured so you know that this guy is going to do it again. This is just about the most ####ed up thing that I have ever heard of. The citizens of this country need to take it back and start all over again. THIS IS A SAD SAD DAY. I am crying for this child. I have lived my life and it is very tempting to find that guy and put him out of her misery. I do believe I could do it. Maybe it is the responsibility of the old people to serve justice because no one else is doing it. If child molesters started dropping like flies it might be a bit of a deterrent and if not it would be justice. Food for thought. Jim
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 26, 2012 8:08:12 GMT -5
Totally agree, disgusting. Now, lets lay the blame where it belongs. “What kind of legal system commands a toddler into a relationship with the man who raped her mother?” Answer: the kind you find in one of the nation’s most liberal, Democrat-dominated, and pro-choice states. The judge responsible for the light sentence, Thomas McGuire, was nominated by left-wing Democrat Gov. Deval Patrick. No, visitation rights for rapists isn’t a pro-choice position, but this happened on their watch, in a system they dominate. The causal link is certainly stronger than their routine insistence that pro-lifers are responsible for everything from skyrocketing rapes and dead women to increased abortion rates and scientific illiteracy. This case highlights two things: first, true violence and harassment against women don’t bear the slightest resemblance to the pro-life positions routinely defamed as part of the “War on Women.” Every time one of the abortion lobby’s narcissistic female apologists claims to be a victim of pro-lifers because they won’t let her kill her child or use government to impose her insurance preferences on her school or employer, she’s really insulting actual victims like this poor teenage girl. Second, liberals are tough on rape only when there are abortions to facilitate or Republicans to embarrass – when it comes to executing rapists, mandatory sentencing of rapists, felons voting, taxpayer-subsidized Viagra for sex offenders, child rape cover-ups at abortion clinics, unions that defend child-abusing members, or scores of liberal politicians and personalities abusing and demeaning women, they’re either AWOL or taking the soft side of the debate, ceding the true tough-on-rape ground to conservatives. www.lifenews.com/2012/09/27/pro-abortion-judge-opens-door-for-rapist-fathers-visitation-rights/
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Post by helens on Oct 26, 2012 9:03:19 GMT -5
Eh? LIBERALS want this? No rape babies = no visitation. End of discussion.
If YOUR wife got violently raped and pregnant, you want some Republicans telling you you have to watch your wife have another man's baby for 9 months, then you can pay for it for 18 years? AND have the rapist in your lives? LOL!
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 26, 2012 9:16:24 GMT -5
Helen, So this is what the left is reduced to. . . No record worthy of running on, so try to make Romney and Ryan out to be something they clearly are not. Only the rabid 32% of Ozombies will even buy into this desperate last ditch attempt to make folks believe that Romney has any intention of messing with Roe v wade. The libs tried the same on Bush, Twice.
Good Luck to ya. . .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 9:23:57 GMT -5
I am going to catch hell for this but the way I see it every pro lifer should get raped, man or woman, then be given an unwanted child to raise PERIOD
This should be screamed from the highest peaks, "THE PLANET CAN NOT SUPPORT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. THAT CHILD MAY STARVE TO DEATH BEFORE IT REACHES OLD AGE".
I have seen starving people and it is as ugly as ugly gets. Pro lifers should get the last morsel of food after everyone else gets their share. If something is not done soon it is going to get so ugly everywhere that people are going to be killing each other for food instead of tennis shoes. This is not a doomsday prediction it has already started.
China has condom dispensers hanging on the outside of building so pedestrians can buy them.
Remove a few cells or let those cells multiply then starve to death down the road somewhere. Then the people can eat human placenta to stay alive like they do in China. How f####n ugly is that. Wake up people. Jim
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 26, 2012 9:44:48 GMT -5
Jim, I won't give you hell, you seem to know the path well enough. So, if I understand your point. . . We live in a country where abortion is legal. This means that we have the freedom to choose. You wish to take away our right to choose life? You say " THE PLANET CAN NOT SUPPORT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. THAT CHILD MAY STARVE TO DEATH BEFORE IT REACH ES OLD AGE" So, are you advocating mandatory abortions? Who gets to choose who is worthy of procreation? You say "every pro lifer should get raped, man or woman, then be given an unwanted child to raise PERIOD" Now that is looking for common ground. . . Sheesh. I am pro life, but do not wish to impose my views on others.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 10:21:17 GMT -5
You impose your views of everything else on others why not this one.
There is no common ground when the planet is over run by people. People are starving and would gladly eat your pet and anything else that moves.
Starvation breeds cannibalism. There is another subject that only the starving will talk about.
The oceans are almost depleted of fish. With the size of the oceans how is that possible? People are hungry and voracious eaters. Some of the people in this country could eat a five year old child in one sitting.
I am not going to be around to see it but my grand children will. Check out the population growth over the next ten or twenty years. There needs to be a scared straight program for everyone on the planet. The population growth in the US has slowed BUT it is still growth.
We import a huge amount of our food so what do you think is going to happen when the countries that are growing our food run out of food. Most people do not have a clue how to raise a garden and preserve it so they are going to be trying to steal yours. You just may have to shoot some of those children when they are raiding your garden. Happy hunting.
If you think that I am trying to scare the hell out of everyone you are correct. Spending on this election has topped a billion dollars. A BILLION DOLLARS to elect someone that can not change a thing. How could that billion dollars have been used in the increased production of food. If population and food do not become the top topic voluntarily it will be forced on everyone soon enough. Jim
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 26, 2012 10:58:55 GMT -5
You impose your views of everything else on others why not this one.Jim Because there is a big distinction between my political views and my moral views. There are things that should be governed by laws, and things that should not be. As I am fond of saying, "One cannot legislate morality" PS I agree that the world can't sustain the population growth, and I do not profess to have the answer. I do know that I find preventing unwanted pregnancies to be a much better option than using abortion as a means of birth control. I am not against it as an option in the case of rape, but it should be up the the victim to decide. On a lighter note, perhaps. . .
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 26, 2012 11:09:27 GMT -5
As I've stated before I'm very conflicted re the morality of this issue and it's true, being male one does not have the same perspective a female would. I too, like Jim, believe we have way too many folks in the world as it is. However, as a biologist, I do know life begins at conception and I do know how broken hearted mothers to be can be after suffering something like a miscarriage. I'm sure they consider their fetus to be a little human being and grieve for the loss of their child.
Problem is, the abortion mindset is a slippery slope and leads to abortions of convenience where there is no rape or threat to the mother's health, partial birth abortions etc. Killing babies is also a slippery slope with our increasing population. Does abortion open the door for raising fetuses or babies to be killed for spare body parts or medical experimentation? A baby or fetus either has the right to life or not, after all. If a baby/fetus has that right, killing it is murder period. That judgement is pretty black and white to me. If it is ruled not human and does not have that right then can they be grown and killed for medical uses same as a monkey or lab rat? There are lots of unwanted children in the country. Should we allow mothers to legally kill post birth children because they don't want them because many many do not want their children or care for them properly? And then we have the question of the hoards of us oldies. Most of us are unwanted by the young'uns and we are admittedly a burden on their existence as they pay for our social security and pay the increased cost to them for our medical care. What's next, making an open season on oldies? Does being unwanted invalidate a human beings rights? I think not but then I'm one of the oldies. I suppose all these moral decisions depend on perspective don't they?. An unwilling mother who carries a child of rape can give the child up for adoption by someone who wants it and would love it.. She does not have to keep it and be subjected to those weird and awful child visitation laws which are of course the fruits of liberalism, as are most laws favoring criminals. Most conservatives I know agree with Jim and think violent criminals should simply be removed from society by execution so blame the libs for all the dang laws we have that babysit career criminals and let them live...Mel
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