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Post by sheltie on Dec 18, 2012 17:40:59 GMT -5
I decided to try a different way to drain my saw this time. I still use the five gallon pail with 1/4" holes in the bottom which is placed inside another five gallon bucket. This time, I drained the oil pudding into two 200 count pillowcases I bought from WalMart. So far it looks MUCH better that draining it through brown paper bags, the way I did it last time. It sure was a lot cleaner as well. Now if I could just figure out a cleaner way to clean the saw after all the stuff has been drained!
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Post by blackout5783 on Dec 18, 2012 18:00:50 GMT -5
Related to your comment on cleaning, I picked up an engine degreaser (also at walmart) that isn't flammable and doesn't remove the paint from the saw either. I can't remember the brand, but its in a white and lime green can with a lime green cap. It worked pretty well last time I used it. A word of warning, the spray is really strong so be prepared for possible splash back.
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Post by sheltie on Dec 18, 2012 19:09:19 GMT -5
Related to your comment on cleaning, I picked up an engine degreaser (also at walmart) that isn't flammable and doesn't remove the paint from the saw either. I can't remember the brand, but its in a white and lime green can with a lime green cap. It worked pretty well last time I used it. A word of warning, the spray is really strong so be prepared for possible splash back. Am I correct in thinking that you used it in all the nooks and crannys that ordinarily can't be easily reached? I wonder if almost any engine degreaser would do the job?
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Post by phil on Dec 18, 2012 19:21:23 GMT -5
Now if I could just figure out a cleaner way to clean the saw after all the stuff has been drained! Why? The first rock you cut is going to make it dirty all over again. After I drain (stirred first, it comes out fairly cleanish), I close the drain, ad a gallon of clean oil and grab an old paintbrush. I then dip into the clean(ish) oil and "paint" the inside everywhere. The crud is dislodged, the saw inside is clean, and the new gallon and washdown gets left right in there to start the next cycle. Or drain if you want, but you're just gonna make it dirty all over again... Extra work is unnecessary.... All that really needs to be "clean" is the trolly, vice, and other moving parts... and the paint brush / oil does a good job of cleaning it. Once a week or so, after the saw sat overnight and the oil is settled, I'll take the paint brush, carefully dip the clean oil, and "paint" anywhere that I feel needs cleaning.... makes a huge difference in cutting time.... Good Luck! Phil
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Post by jamesp on Dec 18, 2012 19:36:17 GMT -5
I agree.Just the working parts
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 18, 2012 19:41:54 GMT -5
I put some oil in a pump up sprayer to clean instead of the paintbrush. same idea though.
I tried a pillowcase several years ago and it did not work well. surprised you got cleaner oil than with paper bags. I have to wonder if your bags had leaks.
I don;t think there is any reason to use harsh engin degreaser in the saw. you do not need to remove the oil, only rinse off dirty oil. every so many cleanings, I do rinse out the LS12 with detergent, but this is so I can inspect the vise carriage and adjust the tension and alignment without getting all oily.
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Post by blackout5783 on Dec 19, 2012 11:27:21 GMT -5
I probably should have clarified. I used the degreaser when I was replacing the gasket on the saw I picked up a few weeks ago. It was leaking oil out of the sump pretty bad, so I pulled off the old dried out gasket material and hit the area with the degreaser so that the new adhesive would stick.
I used wide weatherstripping for the new gasket and haven't had leaks so far. Of course it'll leak now that I said something...
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 19, 2012 23:37:46 GMT -5
If the weather is nice enough to do it I roll the saw outside and wash it out with a quart or so of diesel, takes the snot right off. It all goes into the oil reclaim bag, by the time it's filtered out (I also filter outside) the diesel smell is gone.
Lee
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Post by herchenx on Dec 19, 2012 23:45:23 GMT -5
I like the clean oil paint down idea Phil.
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Post by sheltie on Dec 20, 2012 8:53:57 GMT -5
Now if I could just figure out a cleaner way to clean the saw after all the stuff has been drained! Why? The first rock you cut is going to make it dirty all over again. After I drain (stirred first, it comes out fairly cleanish), I close the drain, ad a gallon of clean oil and grab an old paintbrush. I then dip into the clean(ish) oil and "paint" the inside everywhere. The crud is dislodged, the saw inside is clean, and the new gallon and washdown gets left right in there to start the next cycle. Or drain if you want, but you're just gonna make it dirty all over again... Extra work is unnecessary.... All that really needs to be "clean" is the trolly, vice, and other moving parts... and the paint brush / oil does a good job of cleaning it. Once a week or so, after the saw sat overnight and the oil is settled, I'll take the paint brush, carefully dip the clean oil, and "paint" anywhere that I feel needs cleaning.... makes a huge difference in cutting time.... Good Luck! Phil Great idea! Thanks, I'm going to use it next time. BTW, the oil through the pillowcases was MUCH better than through the paper bags, and no, the bags didn't leak.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 9:42:02 GMT -5
I am wondering why ya'll are cleaning your saws? Just keep enough oil in it so the blade will sling it and go until the puddle under the blade starts filling up with goo. Then just scrape out the goo and start all over again. My blade does not wear down fast and my cuts are so smooth that Helen thought I had done a partial polish. Ok, ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I guess I have to say that I am still cleaning the saw but it does not happen too often. lol Jim
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Post by phil on Dec 20, 2012 18:03:25 GMT -5
Great idea, Thanks, I'm going to use it next time. Welcome BTW, the oil through the pillowcases was MUCH better than through the paper bags, and no, the bags didn't leak. The only time paper bags failed me over the years (2 times), was when I got some cheap flimsy bags from Walmart, and another when the bags from HEB weren't glued very well on the bottom. Other than that, good paper bags have never failed me. Phil
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Post by phil on Dec 20, 2012 18:05:29 GMT -5
I like the clean oil paint down idea Phil. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Did yet another saw drain and filter today. Our lapidary "class" has graduated and we're getting ready for another to start Jan 8th, so now is a great time for me to drain and clean the saws, change grinding and polishing wheel's, belts, etc. So this morning I pulled apart the Lortone 14" drop saw, (bear with me here) stirred and dumped the oil/sludge mix into 2 bucket/bag setups ( folded hardware cloth for about 10 inches on the bottom of the bucket, then bags on top) and set them aside. Wiped down the important parts, replaced a failing belt, and put everything back together. (I've gotta install a 1inch drain in there!!!) By that time it was 10:30. Set the buckets aside to drain till next week (closed for the holidays) and noticed there was already over an inch of clean, crystal clear oil in the bottom of the bucket. Proceeded to cut some rock on the other 14 inch Covington, and when quitting time rolled around (12:30) put the buckets inside the bottom of the grinding/polishing cabinets for safety, and noticed there was now 2 inches of clean, clear oil in the bottom of the bucket. If I were to go in tomorrow morning, 90% of the oil will have drained and be ready to put back in the saw. By next Thursday, I'll probably have 95 to 98% of the oil ready to go back. Then I'll remove the old bags, set them in a separate bucket to get that last 1/2 gallon, reload the drain buckets with clean bags and drain and wipe down the Covington 14 inch. By the time 1/8/13 rolls around, everything will be spic and span and ready for the new class. Too bad we only get "the room" for 3 hours or so twice a week, or I'd be done sooner. Tuesdays are one of our "days" so I only get 3 hours each Thursday till Jan 8th. Then I get to sit back and let the other instructors do the teaching for awhile. I do the maintenance and they do the teaching.... I think I got the better deal... Teaching senior citizens ( I am one too) is not as easy as you think. Every week you're re-teaching the same people the same things till it finally sinks in.... Anyway, the paper grocery bag trick works well, just get a good grade (heavy) grocery bag and double them up! Hope that helps! Phil
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