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Post by jamesp on Feb 4, 2013 10:19:16 GMT -5
These came from a 2 acre non flooding point sticking into a swamp converted to a 200 acre lake.They were digging the lake deeper and going to pile the diggings on top of this highly diverse indian camp.The site sat dry for a cold windy dry winter.First the dried algae blew away,then the sand and soil started blowing away exposing the artifacts.They covered it up long before the artifacts were extracted to completion.The black flints are from NW Georgia.The white quartz is from middle Georgia,and the yellow/orange/brown/reds from coastal plain or south Georgia.I have found about a thousand projectiles along this creek.It is close to home.It is also devoloped into a high end community with a record number of golf cart trails called Peachtree City.I swapped one arrowhead for a tractor trailer load of steel for my welding operations.It was fine.Another display has a dozen of the best from this site. Development of golf courses,housing and mostly lakes along this creek made collecting possible.Most of the sites were destroyed.  |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Feb 4, 2013 11:25:00 GMT -5
Those are really cool. They're kind of like the cabs of long ago. I wonder if the people who made them showed them off to one another like we do with our rock creations. I also wonder if the makers of these arrow heads looked for rocks that were pretty as well as functional. Thanks for the picture!
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 4, 2013 13:05:02 GMT -5
Freakin' awesome Jim!!!!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 4, 2013 13:27:45 GMT -5
I believe they showed them off J Guy.Why would they bring all those different materials in and probably via trades?I found a lot of water clear quartz parts.That stuff is hard to find and does not chip well.They were showing out.I can't even find that many varieties around here and i am a serious rock hound.They were just as human as you and I,you would think.Great point,thanks
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Post by bhiatt on Feb 4, 2013 14:07:48 GMT -5
very cool. nice colors. There are a ton of arrowheads found around where I live. So many are found around here that people dont even care for them. I havent seen any colored ones like yours though. Just the plain jane ones around here.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 4, 2013 14:41:08 GMT -5
They dammed this creek up about 3 miles further upstream and made another nice sized lake that had much steeper shores Brad.There was one camp in the crotch of the Y shaped lake.It was steeper and more hostile of a sorroundings topographically.Found over 200 arrowheads when i finally got across the mud.Everyone of them was local milk quartz crapoheads.And they were building less houses and recreational stuff there.The other lake had restaruant,bar,parks,docks etc.Was user freindly.Point being,the flatter more inviting lake had the more trade and socialization.Those people were smart.
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Post by Pat on Feb 4, 2013 21:40:30 GMT -5
Pretty variety of shapes, colors and materials. Ouch!
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Post by jcinpc on Feb 6, 2013 21:56:40 GMT -5
I have found alot of quartz points up there at the farm in Morgan county, Those indians had to have some skill to work that crap. My cousins ( last name Banks) sold a huge tract of land to Atlanta for the Olympics and during the development a huge site was uncovered...I have found artifacts on their 4000 acre tract in Greene county also........
If you needed welding stuff why didnt you say so? lol I do foreclosure inspections and have my own company that does the clean out and grass cuts and I found , on a trailer, a Lincoln electric welder with a 24 hp Vangaurd motor...I sold that thing for good money
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2013 7:30:41 GMT -5
I hear you jc.When we find a flint point it usually ends up in jealousy-from the guy that only found quartz.I live a mile from the Chattahoochee and it is full of quartzite cobbles w/iron stain.The most colorful are those quartz points.And the mountains is full of quartzite of copper stained greens and blues and clear.We call em sugar quartz and consider them almost as good as flint.A lot of them are made with the base of the projectile being the out side of the cobble.The tip,the inside of the cobble.So the stained rind of the cobble is at the bottom of the point,and the less stained is at the tip.
But it too is hard to knapp.And we have a lot of crapoheads.NW and south half of Georgia is flint.Morgan,Greene,Atlanta-all quartz unless traded in.So if we do find a lot of flint points in an Atlanta camp chances are good that it is a large and diverse camp.
You are fortunate to live in that coral/chert/silicification zone.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 7, 2013 12:58:22 GMT -5
Most of my arrowhead finds where in Montana and North Dakota....I have agate and quartz pieces,plus one or two flint pieces I found in North Dakota.
I don't have alot of arrowhead,maybe 7 or 8....It was the find and hunt that I loved!!!
My Uncle Henry was the arrowhead hunter in the family,he found 1000's of them in his life time,some are in a museum in Montana and my cousin Larry has the rest.
The broken arrowheads he found,he made a portrait of a full bodied Indian Chief and a Indian woman in full scale....They are both in a museum in Montana(I think in Roundup)....
I have two arrowheads that I found while hunting arrowheads with my Uncle...
I have been offered one frame of them this last month when I get back to Montana(from my cousin Larry),it will be an honor just to have them in my possession!(To be passed down to generation to generation)...
Jim,in my opinion your in some prime country to rockhound and it seems you enjoy it so much!!! Salute!!!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2013 13:13:21 GMT -5
I know those artifacts carry sentimental value.And the hunt is the fun part.Was your uncle a rancher or work out side?Atlanta has been a great place to hunt because of all the construction.But would rather be stomping around North Dakota any day-arrows or not!If you ever get pics of his relics please post.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 16:34:36 GMT -5
Awesome thread. I have spent hundreds maybe thousands of hours out in native american territory and never found a single point. To see all the diversity in one find is very cool. Like you said Jim, they had to be trading them around to have all the variety. Just like today! Peoples is peoples, we all like pretty things!
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2013 17:08:18 GMT -5
These are the best from that same site.The closest source of flint is Cartersville Ga to the north and Macon Ga. to the south.100 miles either way. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 17:32:55 GMT -5
some of those are coral. Sweet! Did those humans walk a hundred miles? Better men than me!
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 7, 2013 18:11:55 GMT -5
I know those artifacts carry sentimental value.And the hunt is the fun part.Was your uncle a rancher or work out side?Atlanta has been a great place to hunt because of all the construction.But would rather be stomping around North Dakota any day-arrows or not!If you ever get pics of his relics please post. My Uncle Henry was a man of many colors and talent!!! A fossil and dino hunter(he taught me),hunted arrowheads,agates,panned gold(had his own gold claim in the mountains in Montana),sapphires,rubies,emeralds,he did it all! His work lead him to be outdoors all the time,started out in the oilfields in Montana....So he got to cover alot of land... His best trait was arrowheads and gold.He just knew by the lay of the land and the study of the different tribes to where they would summer and winter their camps. Gold was like second nature to him,made thousands on the market with his gold... Quite man,kept things to himself,untell it was time to teach.I got to be one of his students in the 70's........Been hooked ever since!!! Thumbs up! I'll get ahold of Larry and see if I can get some pics of his collection(Henry was his Dad)...I use to have the photos of the broken arrowheads made into Indian form(I'll look).... |
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 7, 2013 19:28:25 GMT -5
Ok Jim,forgive me,I'm not trying to rob your post..LOL Here are some finds that I found while hunting with my Uncle... Lesson one-never assume what you will find while arrowhead hunting.These are some great finds on my part and with the help of my Uncle Henry. Arrowheads,scrapers,bowl for mixing berries for paint,little trinkets made with agates....Etc,etc...Plus my fav. a club made from a piece of granite stone....  |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2013 19:28:58 GMT -5
Dang it-that bowl is out of control.I never found a tomahawk.Nice finds.Wonder if that bowl is kinda modern?He was into dinosaurs?The fossils?The mineralized bones?
That is an interesting life.Figured he was an outdoor person.I would think that staying out in the weather in those territories would make you really tough.Wind and cold will make a hard ass out of ya.Better than heating and air conditioners.Guess you were destined to be into rocks with an uncle like that.My Mom's sister's husband(my uncle) was forester for paper company and got me started w/arrowsArrowheads come easy to people that get topography,flooding and water sources.Need to see those pics.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 7, 2013 19:37:51 GMT -5
As for the bowl it does look modern,but was found in a area where we figured a hunting party stayed for a few days to hunt food for the tribe,lots of arrowhead pieces(from making heads) where laying in certain places where a man could be sitting with his one leg crossed from the way the flint pieces layed...
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 7, 2013 19:42:41 GMT -5
Now the kicker Jim!!!!! My Uncle told me of stories about the Indians,before they(Warriors) would go into battle they would make good luck charms to be blessed by the Medicine Man in their tribe. The Tribes in our part of the woods would make hearts out of rocks.....I have a few in my collection I have found......All Montana finds...  My fav. heart piece,if you look close,you can see someone started to make a hole in the center of the heart,but didn't finish it....  |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2013 19:52:00 GMT -5
Never heard of such.That is what is good about long distance.We get to see weird stuff that happens way far away.Those are old i bet.Good luck,wow.Who would figure they would copy a heart.Or come up w/that shape.I will do research on that shape.thanks for sharing those Fossilman.
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