Mattatya
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Post by Mattatya on Feb 28, 2013 23:31:40 GMT -5
I saw this unit advertised as a tumbler and am really confused with how this unit works. Is it a rotary? It's really unique looking to me. The label is in Russian. My curiosity has me stumped. Cheers, Matt Attachments:
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Minnesota Daniel
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Mar 1, 2013 0:14:50 GMT -5
Where did you see it listed? There is a picture of a circular saw blade on the label, and it says, "Skillful Hands". If there is a power cord it must be in the back of it.
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 1, 2013 2:18:33 GMT -5
It's a CL ad. I'm so curious I almost called on it today just to look at it. That is the only pic provided. I might call on it tomorrow and buy it just out of pure curiosity. I can't figure the thing out. I don't understand where the 2 red pieces displayed go. At first I thought it was some cheap toy tumbler but the blade logo and the acrylic cover has me wondering if it cuts individual small rocks. Being that it's in Russian I bet there isn't a us standard power cord unless they converted it.
I won't be in the area to pick up until Monday but I'm going to call and post back what I find out. Could be something really unique to display if anything else.
Matt
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Post by johnjsgems on Mar 1, 2013 9:32:09 GMT -5
Looks like a saw of some sort. The clear hood is hinged and it looks like the blade goes there. Pictured blade would be for wood or plastic, not rock.
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Post by jspencer on Mar 2, 2013 14:39:02 GMT -5
I`d say the red pieces attach to the frame and make a cup that holds water to cool a blade or a grinding wheel. The bottom of the wheel would be in water as it revolves. Like the small tile saws. Does it come with the wheels and where would you get new ones from?
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Post by jspencer on Mar 2, 2013 14:44:41 GMT -5
Could the red pieces be just a shield to deflect the waste downward?
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Post by Pat on Mar 2, 2013 15:48:21 GMT -5
Could you take it to a local Russian restaurant and ask them for help reading it? Or to a local junior college/college where they teach English as a Second Language?
Good luck!
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Mar 2, 2013 16:22:21 GMT -5
It says, "Skillful Hands". That could mean anything. How big is the lettering? Is this thing 3 feet high, or just 8 inches? Is that a saw blade, or gears on the label? What kind of table is it sitting on? Is it at a workshop, a factory, or maybe a commercial kitchen?
Is it the front (clear) door, or the back white piece that's hinged? Either way, the hinged part would be in the way if you were using it by hand. I don't see a feed. How would you run anything through it as a saw if the back was in place? This doesn't look nearly strong enough to cut something that would require a coolant. Unless this thing is way bigger than it looks to me, how would you even fit your hands into it to hold something against a grinder? What's with the cutout for the thumbnail on the right side? A tumbler with one axle? Frankly, I'd expect a ripoff of a Lortone. How in the world could this thing be for doing something as simple as tumbling, sawing or grinding - wood, plastic, rock?
Maybe it's a bizarre toy "machine" for cutting/grinding/making something? Weird like a Play-Doh factory? What about a home lunch meat slicer? Or a mixed drink shaker? Maybe it's a contraption like you'd see in the "as advertized" aisle at Walgreens. I hear they eat a lot of beets in Russia. Maybe it's a beet peeler.
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Post by sheltie on Mar 2, 2013 17:27:43 GMT -5
The problem is the words "umelie ruki" (transliterated from Russian to English) could mean virtually anything from a company name to well, you name it. I'm pretty sure it isn't a company name so it may have something to do with some sort of arts and crafts activity.
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Mar 2, 2013 20:10:46 GMT -5
Duh! Stupid me. I don't know why I didn't think of this before. Just Google умелые руки Compact universal machine "Skilled Hands" K-1U4 is designed to work at home. With it you can: - Grind parts of the tree (eg, chess pieces, handles for tools, etc.); - To cut non-metallic sheet materials; - Sharpening tools; - Polishing various items. Craftsmen fit machine for stone and bone. rated voltage AC - 220V power consumption, - no more than 250W rotating speed Spindle-2700ob/min    Someone even has a page with instructions for making it into a rock saw: shtuchki.org.ua/article.php/20090806215439858 |
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Post by Mattatya on Mar 2, 2013 22:40:38 GMT -5
That's awesome, I don't know how you found that. I have never heard of such a thing. The guy wants $35 and it could come in handy?
I'll see if they still have it Monday. Thanks for finding all that great info.
Matt
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 2, 2013 23:02:44 GMT -5
Gotta remember, that will be a 220 V, 50 cycle motor. You'll either need to have the motor rewound for 60 cycle power, or find a replacement motor. If you try to run a 50 cycle motor on our 60 cycle power, you'll see the motor start to smoke in a very short time.
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Post by Minnesota Daniel on Mar 2, 2013 23:27:18 GMT -5
That's awesome, I don't know how you found that. I have never heard of such a thing. The guy wants $35 and it could come in handy? I'll see if they still have it Monday. Thanks for finding all that great info. Matt Finding it was way too easy for it to take me so long. Open a browser window for a Russian translator, I used Google. Open a second window and Google "Russian keyboard". First choice was virtual Cyrillic keyboard you can type on with your mouse. I typed in the letters I thought I could read on the label with the keyboard, it was hard to read actually. Cut and Paste each try to the translator, 'til I got them right. A couple letters were tricky. When it translated to "Skillful Hands", I knew it was correct. Then I just cut and pasted the 2 Russian words, in Cyrillic letters, into Google. Instead of looking at a bunch of pages in Russian, I Googled images. Bingo! I should also say, someone in Russia is selling one for about $6.50, but I think the shipping might be a deal breaker.  |
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Post by sheltie on Mar 3, 2013 9:46:25 GMT -5
Gotta remember, that will be a 220 V, 50 cycle motor. You'll either need to have the motor rewound for 60 cycle power, or find a replacement motor. If you try to run a 50 cycle motor on our 60 cycle power, you'll see the motor start to smoke in a very short time. Or you could buy an inverter (converter?). |
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 3, 2013 9:57:47 GMT -5
Inverter is nothing but a step up or down transformer. It does nothing to change the cycles. Running a 50 cycle motor on 60 cycles will over speed and over heat the motor. Yet a 60 cycle motor can be run on 50 cycles. It just turns slower. Inverters are made to change cycles, but they're bulky and expensive pieces of equipment.
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Post by sheltie on Mar 3, 2013 14:18:48 GMT -5
All I remember is that we used them all the time in the years I was stationed in Europe and and Mid East. Of course, that was 60 Hz to 50 Hz but I suspect the same is true going the other way. On the other hand, I know as much about electricity as I do about how to facet! ;D
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