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Post by phil on May 13, 2013 18:31:16 GMT -5
Well, no good deed goes unpunished, and I guess that goes for lapidary do it yourself also. I've just deleted my how to's because of an email I got demanding to know about my liability coverage, etc for people who try to do what I did and had unhappy results. Jeez. I sure hope everyone who wanted to try printed out their copy, standard liability waivers are hereby invoked. I'm not responsible for your skill set or lack thereof, nor am I responsible for your inability to duplicate what I posted. Sorry folks.
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WarrenA
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Post by WarrenA on May 14, 2013 22:34:39 GMT -5
Where did you get flex epoxy?
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Post by kap on May 15, 2013 12:26:03 GMT -5
When I redo my wheels I just use 220 or 330 epoxy and I've never had a problem.
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Post by Rockhobbit on Aug 24, 2013 19:07:48 GMT -5
Would you post a tutorial of how to do this? I would love to do mine!!
Sheri
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Post by kap on Aug 25, 2013 11:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by phil on Nov 11, 2013 17:16:49 GMT -5
For those that were following this thread, a quick update, as of the last time I checked, 2 weeks ago, they were all running well and showing almost NO wear. Lots of diamonds, etc.....
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Post by roy on Nov 11, 2013 22:36:02 GMT -5
were was the how to posted ? on here? then you got a email from someone who couldn't make it work lmao
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Post by phil on Nov 12, 2013 14:32:05 GMT -5
were was the how to posted ? on here? then you got a email from someone who couldn't make it work lmao The how to was posted, but I deleted it because people got demanding off list. Not because it didn't work. They wanted guarantees. So go LYAO elsewhere, cause the wheels are still grinding and polishing like champs! |
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Post by roy on Nov 13, 2013 9:45:44 GMT -5
were was the how to posted ? on here? then you got a email from someone who couldn't make it work lmao The how to was posted, but I deleted it because people got demanding off list. Not because it didn't work. They wanted guarantees. So go LYAO elsewhere, cause the wheels are still grinding and polishing like champs! but thats my point here if they were doing there own wheels what garanty ? and i wasnt laughing at you but them! i watched randys how to on wire wrapping i didnt ask for a garanty ! in fact i tryed it and i failed at it not my cup o tea not his fault |
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panamark
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Post by panamark on Nov 13, 2013 12:02:29 GMT -5
I am sorry some selfish and inept person had to ruin this. If it was a greedy company trying to protect its interests, then please post their name. Then we may choose not to do business with them because of their help.
Thanks for your try to help!
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Post by phil on Nov 13, 2013 20:36:18 GMT -5
Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
It was individual people who were the problem. I hope you were able to get the info you needed while it was still up, cause I'm not kidding, the wheels I made are working like gangbusters. I think if I tried to take them back, they'd probably hurt me. It's been months, many students have been using them (and we all know how hard newbies are on equipment), and they are still as aggressive as new. Could be because I put so many carats on each wheel. The only restriction put on them was no sharp edges that would dig and gouge the surface. I've only resurfaced one, and that was to double the carats on it because it was one of my early ones that I went a bit light on, and because someone left the water dripping for a long stretch between classes, and the water dissolved the epoxy where it dripped, and left a bare spot. SO I repaired it.
I've since quit being one of the instructors there, but one who is still there says they are still killer!
I've since bought about a dozen more thumpers to convert, I plan on making one heck of a set of diamond wheels for my home unit, soon as my current diamond wheels wear out....
Thanks all, go for it!
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Post by phil on Jan 6, 2014 21:52:48 GMT -5
If anyone is still interested, I have pics of some of the wheels that are as much as 6 months old. Email me off forum and I'll send you the latest. For those who don't need pics, the wheels are doing great. Lots of diamond on them, still cutting and polishing as well as the day they were made. With one exception: where some jerk took a sharp edge to the soft surface and cut the wheel bad enough to retire it.
So, IMHO, they're still worth doing and save lots of $$$!
Phil
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Post by Woodyrock on Feb 3, 2014 3:12:23 GMT -5
The first soft wheel I did, I used a linear poly urethane for the adhesive which is very flexible. I mixed the diamond into the adhesive, and used too much, so the wheel did not cut at all. The second wheel, I spread a light coating on the wheel, and sprinkled the diamond on the adhesive...it is still cutting several years on. The only draw back to the LPU is the twelve hout setting time, so I had to keep the wheel turning until it set.
Woody
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Post by phil on Feb 3, 2014 12:37:22 GMT -5
I did one in the beginning that the epoxy cured a bit thick after the diamond settled down to the bottom, I just took a good bastard file and carefully got it down to the beginning of the diamond "layer" and it's still going strong! It taught me to take the time to spread the 2nd epoxy layer, the one with the diamond mix really evenly and thin - maybe 1/16th inch thick. And I still get drape!
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Post by rockmanken on Feb 6, 2014 19:53:59 GMT -5
I do mine with epoxy 220 and they last a good month or so. I do 50-75 cabs a week and a few knives. I'm hard on 280 grit and 600 grit. Have redone the same belt 2-3 times (I have several belts of each grit) with great results.
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Post by phil on Feb 6, 2014 22:44:44 GMT -5
I do mine with epoxy 220 and they last a good month or so. I do 50-75 cabs a week and a few knives. I'm hard on 280 grit and 600 grit. Have redone the same belt 2-3 times (I have several belts of each grit) with great results. You doing belts or wheels? The wheels I've done are about 7 months old, average about 40 cabs per week, and still going strong. But no knives, I think they are probably hard on wheels or belts. As each wheel cost about $40 to refurb, we're happy. And the wider 3 inch working surface is a dream! |
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Post by kap on Mar 23, 2014 17:31:18 GMT -5
Just finished redoing some 8" wheels. 220,100,600 grit. I put a lot of Diamond on mine around 25cts and use 330 epoxy and they cut great! Costs me about $11 to do one!  Keith |
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Post by phil on May 12, 2014 21:42:24 GMT -5
For those who asked to be kept updated. here's the 220 at 8 months use, and the 14K at 10 months use. They get used hard 3 times a week, 4 hours at a time, each time a group of about 14 or so beginners. The 100 wheel refurb resurfacing is still fine, but one of the students who thinks she knows better took a sharp rock and proceeded to gouge the wheel, so it was taken off. She still hasn't learned. The 220:  The 14K:  |
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Post by phil on May 17, 2014 20:21:47 GMT -5
If anyone is interested in doing this themselves, I just lucked into about 25 more brand new thumper wheels for converting to diamond.
$20 each plus shipping.
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