jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jun 7, 2013 20:47:47 GMT -5
Took a few yesterday Laydeckeri Fulgens a vintage by Marliac Letour in 1893.Blooms like crazy May-Sept Georgia Peach by famous Texan hybridizer Kirk Strawn in mid 90's Potted stock,Red Spider also by Strawn mid 90's More potted stock,Peach Glow by Strawn 1998 Thai hybrid and 2013 Lily of the Year 'Wan Visa'.From propogules-yea Six potted lilies L to R Mangkala Ubol,Marliac Chromatella,Peach Glow Steven Strawn,Fabiola,Wan Visa Potted stock beds at dusk,blooms are closed to business
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Post by kk on Jun 7, 2013 21:07:23 GMT -5
Beautiful.
Are you also harvesting the leaves? They are said to have a lot of health-benefits. As I was still a tour-guide, I often took leaves from remote monasteries with me to make tea with the fresh leaves.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jun 7, 2013 21:10:34 GMT -5
Wow, those are beautiful. I've only seen the wild ones. The wild water lilies are really nice, but I love your red ones.
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Post by helens on Jun 8, 2013 2:04:04 GMT -5
Dang James... I need to fertilize my little pond!!! Mine aren't blooming like that:(...
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2013 2:57:29 GMT -5
I will look on google Kurt to see if I can find such a tea here in the states.We are a bit conservative about out teas but have opened up in the past few decades:>I harvest a lot of roots and tubers.They are full of black 'ink'.Removable by bleach.Now i grow from propagations and harvest less roots. The red lilies are the most popular in the suburbs Rob.The urban folks like white and/or really bright colors.Some do much better in the shade.The urban folks always request shade friendly lilies because their yards are smaller and shadier.Country residents want big.Or rigorous for lake plantings. Dear Helen.I could have gotten rich off of Georgia red clay.It is the backbone of nutrients to feed a healthy water lily.I never marketed it.I have sold 1000's of cubic yards in the form of potted plants.Living on the peidmont is key.The ground down appalachian mountains created a peidmont full of thick super fine grained mineral rich platelet clay.You can grow a happy lily in an 8 inch pot full of clay,equal to a 16 inch pot of most other soils.The Florida clay(gumbo)is lacking in micro nutrients.I have tried clays from all over Florida.Go figure. Micro/macro nutrients complicated and varied-Ca Mg S B Cl Cu Fe Mn Mo Zn Ni.And i supplement those plus the normal N-P-K in new age thermoplastic coated non polluting time release fertilizers. Every barn and greenhouse was built on a flat spot where clay was mined to use for potted plants.Like 2 acres of terraces
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Post by grayfingers on Jun 8, 2013 7:32:22 GMT -5
Wow, those sure are beautiful! Here in Montana we only have pond lilies, Nuphar variegata and Nuphar polysepala (natives). We also have the exotic Nymphaea odorata as well as Nymphaea leibergii (which is listed as a species of concern).
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Post by steveo on Jun 8, 2013 8:25:40 GMT -5
Love the colors.
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Post by kk on Jun 8, 2013 8:41:28 GMT -5
Here is a standard quote of what the chinese think lotus leaves can help with:
Health Benefits of Lotus Leaf Tea Posted on July 27, 2011 by paulhaider
Lotus Leaf Tea helps with anxiety, stress and, helping your liver to be healthy, invigorates the blood according to Chinese Medicine and also stops internal bleeding for such conditions as blood in the urine. Also good for ringworm, and because it is very astringent it is great for diarrhea. Studies show it decreased the absorption of carbs and fat and also increase metabolism-thus helping people lose weight. Lotus Leaf Tea is also anti-bacterial and anti-fungal and also helps with cardiovascular health because it is full of lots of great oxidants and can increase coronary blood flow and lower blood pressure.
Paul Haider – Master Herbalist
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 8, 2013 9:24:10 GMT -5
Were I lived in North Dakota,my old boss had wild lilys on his grazing land..Two ponds full.Always enjoys the blooms on them as we drove by...
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2013 9:28:36 GMT -5
We have native dwarf 'tetragona' Bill.It is infrequent but vigorous.It is similar to the western 'leibergii'.Nuphars and odoratas occur equally.Both varying enough that humans do not realy know what Heinz 57 mix is going on lest they are tetrgona or Pee Dee River variety of Nuphars. Pee Dee River lily of South Carolina(about the only place it exists) Of course i did a jungle trip and brought back propagation stock.Sold bunches.Competitors were'what the hell is that' LOL
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Post by jamesp on Jun 8, 2013 9:47:20 GMT -5
I could use help in all those areas Kurt."Rode hard and put up wet"-a saying that tells how much abuse you have given to your body LOL. I am aware of the smell of the lily from root to bloom.The young leaves have a gentle smell.And are very tender.I must give this medicine a try.Plant compounds have mysterious effects on the human body.The jungles of S America are/were territories of extreme herbal medicines.Probably most ancient cultures.
Well,the yellow lily is very basic flower Fossilman.One of the earliest plant forms.
Check this out Kurt and Fossilman'fossilized nuphar'(water lily seeds) found in Wutu,Shandong,China and North Dakota(very technical):
Well-preserved seeds from the early Eocene of Wutu, Shandong, China are assigned to the genus Nuphar (Nymphaeaceae) based on morphology and anatomy. The seeds of Nuphar wutuensis sp. nov. are ellipsoidal to ovoid, 4–5 mm long with a clearly visible raphe ridge, and a truncate apex capped by a circular operculum ca. 1 mm in diameter bearing a central micropylar protrusion. These features, along with the testa composed of a uniseriate outer layer of equiaxial pentagonal to hexagonal surface cells and a middle layer 4–6 cells thick composed of thick-walled, periclinally elongate sclereids, correspond to the morphology and anatomy of extant Nuphar and distinguish this fossil species from all other extant and extinct genera of Nymphaeales. These seeds provide the oldest record for the genus in Asia and are supplemented by a similar well-preserved specimen from the Paleocene of North Dakota, USA. These data, together with the prior recognition of Brasenia (Cabombaceae) in the middle Eocene, indicate that the families Nymphaeaceae and Cabombaceae had differentiated by the early Tertiary.
An article that discusses China and North Dakota(Kurt and Fossilman)'s home territory-try that again
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