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Post by sheltie on Jun 19, 2013 14:19:33 GMT -5
Ok, I admit it. I'm a compulsive slabber and there isn't a seven step program I can find to cure myself. So I have to live with the consequences. I buy the majority of my rough from Tony (Catmandewe), a source in FL, and occasionally eBay. Friends sometimes keep me supplied with rough and when I'm able to leave the rock barren oasis of central TX, I do a lot of my own hounding. I like getting rocks from various places rather than just localized (like the Oregunians do because I like variety. I know about the Gem Shop, Rock Shed, etc but haven't bought rough from them. All that said, one of the consequences of slabbing so much (I also polish my slabs) is that I now have close to 1,500 of them and they are threatening to take over my house. I would say that most of what I have is of average grade, some not so much, a fair amount really nice (considering that beauty is in the eyes etc, etc. etc). I need to sell some. I'm thinking that eBay is possibly the largest volume place to sell although I'm sure there are others and am seeking your advice. I'm not interested in trading slabs, because, well, I like TO slab not to BUY slabs. Is eBay the best place to sell at a reasonable price or are there others I should look at? I'm inclined not to go with Etsy because it's not for the average person as far as I can tell and I want my slabs to be available to anyone interested, if that makes sense. If anyone has any recommendations for me as to where to sell, please let me know. Also, if you can recommend another source for me to buy rough, I'd also be interested in that as well. I'm an addict, I admit it.
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Post by Don on Jun 19, 2013 14:25:34 GMT -5
buy rough at quartzsite.
sell slabs on ebay, rock shows, flea markets, website, etsy, etc.
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Post by sheltie on Jun 19, 2013 14:29:46 GMT -5
I should've added Quartzite as a source as we went there this year. I'm too lazy to go to shows or flea markets (in my civilian world before I retired, I ran international trade shows for a major Defense contractor. I've had all the shows I can handle!).
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Post by Don on Jun 19, 2013 14:48:10 GMT -5
Your best bet then is probably Ebay.
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Post by deb193redux on Jun 19, 2013 16:31:50 GMT -5
You can try ebay, but IMO the market for polished slabs is not on ebay. People there (mostly, in the lapidary rough ares; there are other in the specimen area)are buying material to cut. I know I will pay a tiny bit more for a polished slab because it is proven. But I am not going to display the slab and I will not pay anything near the value of the extra time you took to polish.)
You can try selling polished slabs in the section where people sell minerals and finished pieces. But do not have a sense of that market. It is either rough slabs or finished cabs. Not a lot of market in between. IMO.
Your very best bet is some small local shows or rock swaps (aka tailgate) where you can set out polished slabs and "the public" might buy them to display, and might pay more than lapidaries pay for rough slabs.
You should check out rough at Natures Treasures in Austin.
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Post by sheltie on Jun 19, 2013 18:32:23 GMT -5
Daniel, Are you saying that unpolished slabs would sell easier than polished ones or am I misunderstanding what you wrote? Actually, I polish (using a wet polisher) because I enjoy it and started doing it for my personal benefit, i.e., I liked the polished look in a stand. Plus, given the hot Texas summer, I can sit in my front yard, under some trees and just polish away without getting hot. Lord knows I have plenty of unpolished slabs I can sell! Denny
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Post by jakesrocks on Jun 19, 2013 19:56:17 GMT -5
Take pics of the slabs you're selling. Post them on here for a week or so to give our members first crack at them. Post what doesn't sell in that time on ebay.
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Post by kap on Jun 19, 2013 20:36:07 GMT -5
(Are you saying that unpolished slabs would sell easier than polished ones) I dont buy polished ones to make cabs out of because you have to cut and polish the cabs anyway so I would by one NOT polished over on that is. If you want to make it a display piece OK but not to cab. Also a lot of times when you see a polished slab they have been sprayed with clear lacquer to make them look polished or to hide pits. Also the thing about Ebay is they charge you 10% fee on the sell and shipping price!
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Post by helens on Jun 19, 2013 21:28:23 GMT -5
Yah... what's wrong with selling them here first??
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Post by deb193redux on Jun 19, 2013 21:46:48 GMT -5
Yes, I think there is more market for unpolished, but maybe I am only more familiar with the rough slab market
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Post by marinedad on Jun 20, 2013 6:50:10 GMT -5
I also would rather buy unpolished slabs to cab.
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 20, 2013 8:30:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd say try selling here first and E-bay second. For the really good slabs, E-Bay can yield some ridiculous prices but there are fees involved etc. I don't think it's worth while polishing slabs before you sell them unless they are really special slabs folks would want to keep as specimens. The major market on E-bay is unpolished slabs to cut up for cabbing. You need to post very good pics for E-Bay and make sure you describe the slabs very well as to defects etc. I quit buying from E-bay after being ripped off several times by sellers who did not describe the defects in the slabs they had for sale which of course, were not visible in the pics.....Mel
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Post by sheltie on Jun 20, 2013 8:36:48 GMT -5
Yah... what's wrong with selling them here first?? Absolutely nothing. I have noticed, however, that many people here sell FRBs at VERY low prices. While I do want to lower my inventory, I don't want to given them away which is near what many people here do. I feel that I have a lot of time especially, and money invested and that I should expect a fair price in return. What that price is, I'm unsure, but for example, a small flat rate box of 10 or more slabs for $20-30 including shipping is like giving it away. Speaking of which, I DO give some slabs away to friends and those I meet on forums who are looking for a particular type of slab. I also trade slabs for rough, although it's sometimes hard to figure out what's fair. I had a case recently where a friend sent me five nice pieces of rough and I sent him about 10 really nice slabs in return. I was very happy with what I got from him and he seemed to like what he got. As to apples to apples, I have no idea if the trade was "fair" but we both were satisfied. I guess I like the eBay idea of selling in that you can sell for what the market will bear. Here, you have to assign a particular price to some volume of rocks rather than individual pieces, although there is nothing that stops you from doing that. Looking back at what I wrote, it appears that I'm looking to do nothing more than make money and that isn't accurate. It's just that I was raised with the principle that if something has some kind of value, be willing to pay for it if that is what you want.
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Post by sheltie on Jun 20, 2013 8:39:04 GMT -5
I also would rather buy unpolished slabs to cab. I'm not sure that the following would make any difference to you and others of like mind, but I only polish one side. Since I display the slabs on stands, I never have felt the need to do both sides. So I guess you could still get what you want from me with one side unpolished. Does it make any difference that only one side is unpolished?
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Post by sheltie on Jun 20, 2013 8:39:37 GMT -5
I also would rather buy unpolished slabs to cab. How about one side unpolished?
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Post by roy on Jun 20, 2013 9:22:42 GMT -5
i dont think that when we sell box'es here for a lower price is giving it away! its called sharinhg with friends and only getting what you paid for the rough and shipping! if you want to list slabs put them up on here with the price you want and see what the reaction is there are a lot of members here that buy on ebay aswell you might be suprized how well they will go
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Post by deb193redux on Jun 20, 2013 11:13:19 GMT -5
No the one unpolished side does not help. LOL. My point was not that polished was any sort of problem, heck I pointed out that it had the benefit of proving the stone ability to take a polish. My point was about price. I don't want to pay for time it took to polish when I am going to trim up the slab and redo the polish. Only somebody planning to display the slab would pay for polish. I concede that the one-side-only polish does address any concerns about pit filling or resin treatments. (But I would actually pay more for good material that had small fractures treated with a good quality resin - saves me the step. I am not resin phobic.) If you want to sell the polished slabs in the lapidary materials section for just a hair above what similar unpolished slabs are selling for, you might have an edge. But you are then selling material, not your time. That mostly goes out the window. I just went an looked, and there is an ebay section called "Display Specimens" under "Crystals & Minerals" under "Collectables, Rocks & Fossils". You should list the better ones there. I see many in that section are cross-listed in lapidary materials too. Keep in mind you will be competing with slabs that were chosen for polish because they were better than average. You mentioned that many of the slabs were of average quality. For this I infer you polished them as part of you hobby, and they had extra meaning to you because you had cut them. I further infer that someones polishing material to sell at a show would have chose to spend their time polishing a more exceptional (i.e., more sale-able) slabs. You might pick out some of the nicer ones, the ones that someone other than the slabber might want to display. These might do OK on ebay in the section I mentioned. But, it seems to be these are the very ones you would most likely want to keep. ---------- I do agree that many sales here just try to recoop cost and do not consider time. Members giving other members deals, hobbyists (who do not have to recoop their time) unloading material ... etc. I think this is why listing here is free, because it is seen as a win-win benefit to all. It is also why someone coming here just to sell, and trying to get full retail is often called out as a jerk. You might list things here for about 10% less than what you would list them for on ebay. This passes on the ebay fee difference to members as a nice gesture. If they don't sell, because the market here for polished average slabs is small, then move them to ebay. You will already have the pics taken. The bottom line is that you have polished a lot of material that ordinarily would not have been polished, or which could have been polished overseas for pennies. Now you want to sell not only the material but a fair price for you time. In that regard, except for the occasional lucky sale, I think you are screwed. There is no business model sense to what you want to accomplish. Get what you can for the nicer ones you do not want to keep, sell the rest cheap now, (or your estate can sell it even cheaper in the future.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 14:10:46 GMT -5
Sheltie, the point is if they are buying to make cabs then the time used to polish one side is wasted. They want unpolished to save you time and them money.
Polish one or both sides, sell it at the unpolished price and they will buy it and cab it the same. Polish on a slab for cabochon makes is nothing. Photograph it wet and sell it! Polish the ones you wanna keep or think you can sell as a specimen.
I hope this is useful.
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Post by sheltie on Jun 20, 2013 14:12:45 GMT -5
i dont think that when we sell box'es here for a lower price is giving it away! its called sharinhg with friends and only getting what you paid for the rough and shipping! if you want to list slabs put them up on here with the price you want and see what the reaction is there are a lot of members here that buy on ebay aswell you might be suprized how well they will go I agree with you about sharing and I do it myself on occasion. However, if one desires to profit from the sale of "X", this forum is generally not the place to do it. I don't think the forum is designed for that although there are some that do. I'm a rank hobbyist and do this to please myself and my family. Others here do this for a business or are much more professional about it than I am. Good for them and I support what they do. AND I have no problem with that. As I mentioned earlier, if anyone wants something from me, I'm always willing to help. Many times I do it for free, including shipping. Other times it is a routine trade. I don't plan to use this forum as a place to sell for profit. I'm still in the learning process about this hobby and have a LOOOOONG way to go before I understand even 1/2 of what may of you do. So until then, I will just rely of you folks to make suggestions and recommendations about what I should and shouldn't do. Does that clear things up?
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Post by sheltie on Jun 20, 2013 14:17:56 GMT -5
Sheltie, the point is if they are buying to make cabs then the time used to polish one side is wasted. They want unpolished to save you time and them money. Polish one or both sides, sell it at the unpolished price and they will buy it and cab it the same. Polish on a slab for cabochon makes is nothing. Photograph it wet and sell it! Polish the ones you wanna keep or think you can sell as a specimen. I hope this is useful. I understand what you say and can easily comply. My thought about the polishing was to make it easier for me to see the beauty of the slab, not to make it more expensive. I will continue to polish slabs because I enjoy doing it but I will offer either the unpolished or polished to those who may want it at the same price. I have enough of both of the same kind of rock (i.e., Mexican lace, Gary Green etc) that I will still have more of unpolished slabs than I have polished. I'm retired, I have plenty of time so that isn't factored in any price I may set. I have many of my slabs on stands on a long decorative table as you enter my house. I like the look, specifically the "glare" off their surface when the sun hits them. In short, I polish because I like to.
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