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Post by bjurney on Jul 9, 2013 15:45:24 GMT -5
So part of the collection I acquired from my grandfather included several chunks of uranium ore. From what I know about uranium, its not really to radioactive, although I probably don't want to stick it under my pillow at night. Got it all wrapped in tinfoil now so the kids don't go licking it, but what can I do with it? What is the best way to display it? Does it make for some good cabs?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 15:57:49 GMT -5
Do not build a centrifuge. Definitely do not do that.
I'll defer to Geoff for real advice. He works with radioactivity for his job.
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Post by bjurney on Jul 9, 2013 16:04:00 GMT -5
Do not build a centrifuge. Definitely do not do that. I'll defer to Geoff for real advice. He works with radioactivity for his job. Guess I will cancel my order on ebay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 16:04:55 GMT -5
lol.
seriously tho', I do hope geoff is able to help you.
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Post by Geoff on Jul 9, 2013 16:39:46 GMT -5
I'm in line at the grocery store. Put it in a zip top bag and keep it away from people. I'll have more advice later.
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Post by Geoff on Jul 9, 2013 16:57:57 GMT -5
Ok.
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Post by Geoff on Jul 9, 2013 17:22:22 GMT -5
Ok. Grocery crisis averted. The commissary requires full attention.
Uranium as a metal is not very radioactive. As an ore it is quite dangerous for a number of reasons. The problems you encounter are from the fact it is not pure. You have many daughter isotopes in your samples that are very dangerous. Uranium decays into radium which emits low energy gamma rays, but then decays into radon gas. Radon has a half life of a little over three days, and is heavier than air. Any radon in your lungs when it decays becomes a radioactive metal that will sit in there and happily emit alpha particles right into your lung tissue. There is a similar hazard from just having radioactive ore, any pieces that crumble off contaminate the area you store them. If you ingest this dust, again you are bombarding your innards with alpha particles. Of all forms of ionizing radiation, alpha is the most biologically harmful. But only once its inside you. In my line of work, neutron radiation is much scarier to deal with, but since it doesn't occur naturally, its not a concern here. You obviously don't want kids getting ahold of it. Again the biggest risk is ingestion. It takes an obscene amount of naturally occurring radioactive material (NORM) to pose an external hazard, but you don't want to test that theory on rapidly growing organisms like kids. I won't bring any of my specimens inside the actual house because I have a two year old daughter and a very very pregnant wife. In my shop they are stored in a 30 pound lead box. That's a pretty small box btw. About 4x4x2.5 inches inside. The reason for my excess safety there is I have some very pure pitchblende samples that put out a crap ton of gamma.
So, for your and your family's safety, you want to keep them in a sealed zip top bag, away front anywhere you spend a lot of time (living room, bedroom...) and out of the reach of kids. I can link you to some good sites for more info later today.
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Post by bjurney on Jul 9, 2013 18:04:44 GMT -5
I have about 15 pounds of the stuff!! Gee thanks Grandpa! lol. I have it wrapped in tinfoil now, but I will put what I can in a zip log bag, some of the specimens are rather large. When I unwrapped the tinfoil on one of them, there were several ants crawling over it, so I wasn't to worried, but you make it sound like I am a step away from being Chernobyl! Do ants not absorb the radiation like we do? I do admit though, the ants were quite large! Haha. I don't know how pure my specimens are. I had read somewhere that if I just enclose it within glass, the gamma rays couldn't penetrate through the glass, is that true?
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Post by orrum on Jul 9, 2013 18:21:54 GMT -5
Its not wrapped in tinfoil its wrapped in lead foil so if you dont have any lead foil double bag it in heavy duty garbage bags and dont poke holes in it and get someplace proper and safe. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Geoff on Jul 9, 2013 18:41:11 GMT -5
If you're basing the safety of your family on the habits of ants, there is nothing I can do for you.
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Post by bjurney on Jul 9, 2013 20:25:07 GMT -5
I have had it stored away in my garage, its not like I had it as a centerpiece at my dining room table. I realized that it is radioactive and that I shouldn't treat it like a normal mineral. Really I was kind of hoping that I would have been able to safely display it somehow rather than having it wrapped up and tucked away, but if that is what I have to do to keep everyone safe, I will. My thinking was, that if several small ants could crawl all over it without growing a second head, I'm glad I asked though! Thanks for the comments Geoff.
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Post by Pat on Jul 9, 2013 21:10:48 GMT -5
So if I am unlucky enough to inherit uranium , how can I get rid of it safely? Don't think I'd want it hanging around. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 21:23:07 GMT -5
So if I am unlucky enough to inherit uranium , how can I get rid of it safely? Don't think I'd want it hanging around. Thanks. Throw it in the trash. Then if someone knocks be surprised, say "I am sorry" and ask foregiveness. It is always easier to ask foregiveness than it is to ask permission. Plus, it is always better to plan ahead!
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Post by orrum on Jul 9, 2013 22:13:39 GMT -5
Yes just dont have a bunch of old timey clocks with the glow in the dark faces scraped off and in a cup in front of a shoe box lined with lead foil filled with your uranium with a 2 pin holes lined up and pointed at the cup of glow in the dark paint. Oops thats a nuclear enrichment reactor.....yikes the darkd suit guys with sunglasses r gonna come get me. Really Scot can I hide in your basement? ?
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Post by Geoff on Jul 9, 2013 22:26:11 GMT -5
I take a lot of radioactive materials from collectors that don't want to deal with them. United Nuclear Radiation SafetyYou won't grow extra body parts, this isn't a comic book.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2013 13:18:00 GMT -5
Geoff you are amazing! Thanks for this! Good knowledge for everyone!
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 10, 2013 18:15:33 GMT -5
So part of the collection I acquired from my grandfather included several chunks of uranium ore. From what I know about uranium, its not really to radioactive, although I probably don't want to stick it under my pillow at night. Got it all wrapped in tinfoil now so the kids don't go licking it, but what can I do with it? What is the best way to display it? Does it make for some good cabs? You can pack it around the wife's wedding ring and turn the diamonds a beautiful green. Green diamonds form from the natural radiation in the ground they are exposed to.
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Post by vegasjames on Jul 10, 2013 18:16:03 GMT -5
I have about 15 pounds of the stuff!! Gee thanks Grandpa! lol. I have it wrapped in tinfoil now, but I will put what I can in a zip log bag, some of the specimens are rather large. When I unwrapped the tinfoil on one of them, there were several ants crawling over it, so I wasn't to worried, but you make it sound like I am a step away from being Chernobyl! Do ants not absorb the radiation like we do? I do admit though, the ants were quite large! Haha. I don't know how pure my specimens are. I had read somewhere that if I just enclose it within glass, the gamma rays couldn't penetrate through the glass, is that true? What about under leaded glass?
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Post by Pat on Jul 10, 2013 18:34:51 GMT -5
I googled uranium to see why someone would want to display it. I'm still wondering.....
Anyone find any pretty uranium?
Thanks.
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Post by pporky on Jul 10, 2013 18:35:03 GMT -5
I've seen some very impressive uranium pieces in fluorescent displays, which were in glass display cases.
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