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Post by grayfingers on Jul 24, 2013 8:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by snuffy on Jul 24, 2013 8:43:03 GMT -5
The roses are very pretty.Not much blooming around here now. My wife would go ape over that yellow!
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Post by rockjunquie on Jul 24, 2013 10:07:01 GMT -5
I love those old roses! They smell divine. It's hard to get a good old fashioned perfume rose. I prefer the nice smell of a rose to the fancy looks. I have a huge white crawler that smells nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 10:41:54 GMT -5
I like those better than the garbage they sell in stores now. Home depot roses die when you fart near them. Give me a hearty healthy rose with a sweet odor anytime, doesn't have to be hybrid or double flowered, simple and elegant.
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Post by Sabre52 on Jul 24, 2013 22:43:47 GMT -5
Very cool. I love antique roses! I saw one similar to your yellow one at an old mission in New Mexico that the rangers said was like 300 years old. We have two antique roses in our yard that came from stock brought over from Scotland a couple of hundred years ago. The folks we bought our house from were from a sea faring family and one of their ancestors brought the originals over. The bright red climber does well here in Texas but the bush type which is one of those with many layered complex flowers, always seems to get flower thrips or mildew in our heat and humidity.
One of my nursery customers back in Calley, had a whole business just growing antique flowers which she sold to boutique shops in LA. She really had some beautiful types....Mel
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Post by Don on Jul 25, 2013 12:41:19 GMT -5
very beautiful. I need to plant some rose bushes around the house...
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Post by adrian65 on Jul 25, 2013 13:36:03 GMT -5
Looking good! And if you say they also smell nice, it's fantastic.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 27, 2013 3:29:40 GMT -5
This antique rose company started in Texas and had a store in N. Georgia mountains for a good while. They collected as many wild roses as they could find all around Atlanta. A great deal of their stock came from Atlanta's rose happy habitat. Old home sites dating back to who knows when. I think they set the store up just to be in this antique rose haven for collection purposes. Great concept. Check out their list. Many over 150 years old www.antiqueroseemporium.com/groups/all
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Post by grayfingers on Jul 27, 2013 7:53:22 GMT -5
Wow, that is a great concept. The old varieties have so much more fragrance too. Hybrid teas will only last one to three years here, they can't take the winters. I used to tell customers at the greenhouse I was head grower for that tea roses are Montana's most expensive annual.
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jul 27, 2013 8:12:58 GMT -5
Those are gorgeous! I can almost smell them looking at the pictures!! They would never survive down here! Too humid!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 27, 2013 10:25:49 GMT -5
The fact that these roses survived w/out care was most intriguing selling point. The history to go with it. And a plant can continue to survive and keep it's ID and legacy intact.
Bamboo was brought over and was found to be happy. A lot of it was documented on reception into the US. And it has a similar story to tell. Off sub-Bamboo has the power to put leaf litter out 365 days a year and produces it at about the highest rate of any plant on earth. It has been in the states for 100 years for the most part. My groves are pushing 15 years and the soil below is fantastic. The groves overseas have been building the soil for tens of thousands of years. I have heard that it is mined and can be 150 feet deep.
I have no sympathy for you Donnie. I have seen a ficus tree limb grow out over a road and then replant into the ground on the other side. Did you know that you are further south than Hawaii? Your forests are scary. You can grow anything tropical on earth except desert stuff.
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Post by grayfingers on Jul 27, 2013 12:29:37 GMT -5
That is cool that bamboo is such a soil maker! Seems like it might be of value as a cover crop for healing shallow soils that have been logged off. Leaf mold is garden gold. It is the best source of readily available nutrients, and inspires the microbes which make soil a living thing.
I talked to a lady once who told me that in Florida, she had a hedge of Poinsettias. She would add a plant or two each Christmas, and they trimmed it like a regular hedge. Hard to imagine that here where they can die of cold on the way home from the greenhouse. She said they had to be careful about tossing avocado pits outside, as they usually sprouted into trees. Maybe she was pulling my leg a little, but I bet not by much.
I am very into pioneer plants. Cold and heat hardy, pest/disease resistant and minimal care required. When I think of the joy these simple flowers brought in contrast to the stark realities of life on homesteads between the prairie and Rockies they are even more special.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 27, 2013 15:15:49 GMT -5
Tough plants are the way to go. Old home sites have stories to tell like old gardeners. Look and listen carefully.
Neighbor in Florida has a diverse garden. He throws his trimmings and diggings over my fence. Devil's Trumpets, Gingers, Plumeria, elephant ears, Aloes on and on. Fine w/me. Plants are good for the soul Bill. Think about a lotus sometime. They are low maintenance and good to north British Columbia. Got a tub or feed trough, be glad to send you some
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