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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 15:05:02 GMT -5
I thought all of you might like to see the "perfection" from the monkeys at the post office! From George turnedstone: Unknown sender I have been designated traveling rock box conglomerator. Three boxes of donations arrived today, one last week. There is a box from The Dad_Ohs that made it thru relatively well. George's box is completely destroyed with stones remaining. They all look terrific. George, what is the green stuff? To the third unknown sender thank you. If you wanna post here our remain silent, we all still appreciate what you did. But, I have no clue if it all got here. There is indeed a lot there. No reason the postal worker who put it in the bin wouldn't take anything for their kids. Unless it was REAL pretty.Also came late last week is a box from @wampidy. Some gorgeous stuff for me and a lot of sweet slabs for the traveling rock box. Thanks Jim! If this had been invoiced to me I would have been pissed. As it is my friends may be upset.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 4, 2013 15:22:32 GMT -5
Seems like the larger the package (and the heavier), the more damage that is done. I'm sure there is some mathematical formula for this. A small flat rate box stands a much better chance of not being abused.
Another part of the equation is, how much money (per pound) was collected by the USPS to send this package to its destination? An LFRB is $16.85, weighing, what - 50 lbs? So that's less than 35 cents per pound. I'm thinking the person lifting this box is not gonna be real concerned with its contents, or whether it gets delivered in one piece. (I mean, it's just rocks, right?)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 18:52:27 GMT -5
Scott, I sent enough slabs so that you can have a few because I do not know if it is coming/going back around to you.
How did my box weather the storm? I have started wrapping them up pretty good with red tape that is like gorilla tape or duct tape and covering the entire top with moving box tape. Jim
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 19:12:48 GMT -5
You box made it fine due to the red tape. They did manage to tear the red tape in a 2" line on one side.
Thank you jim! You da man.
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Post by turnedstone on Sept 4, 2013 23:25:26 GMT -5
The 3rd one is from me to that must be the swap box. Sorry was going to p.m. you and tell you I left my return addy off the one she snatched it away from me while I was doing the other box, it was closing time on saturday she was in a panic lol.It should of had some tumbled pet. wood in there if it do that be the swap box. the green is some cranberry ore from North Carolina its got magnetite with epidote along with some pink feldspar and some white quartz's should make a nice sphear the other is flint ridge flint could not find my blue white chunk would love to have one cut out of it.I may pack another one for you if you think you may need better material for a sphear let me know. George
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Post by turnedstone on Sept 4, 2013 23:31:46 GMT -5
looking at the pic it is the swap box man that was a new box they do not like the big flat raters it was almost beat up that bad when you sent it to me lol. George
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Post by vegasjames on Sept 5, 2013 4:24:14 GMT -5
I have been double walling my boxes when shipping large volumes of rock for this reason. Another option other than cutting up cardboard boxes to double wall boxes is to use hard to tear plastics such as the bags used to bag water softener salts. These help to prevent sharp rocks from cutting through the boxes as easily.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 5, 2013 7:05:45 GMT -5
I sent 60 LFRB's out of Zapata Texas. All full of rocks. They gave me tape. Enough rolls to easily wrap every box in full tape coverage. The tape was only for FLB shipping and was thin and strong and had about 200 yards of tape on each roll. The Atlanta office does not offer that service. We ship a good bit of stuff and tape is a big cost. Also you can go to your local plant nursery and take there unwanted plant pots and use them to containerize in the FRB's. Heavy bags helps a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 9:38:03 GMT -5
George no need to send anything more. Everyone here is so amazingly generous. Jimm also included gifts too. I am way too far ahead!
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Sept 6, 2013 23:14:12 GMT -5
Since the Post Office now puts an automatic $50.00 worth of insurance on every flat rate box I would file a claim on each box for the $50.00 and claim it as damaged slabs that no longer have their value due to breakage and missing materials. The way I see it that's $100.00 worth of material for the traveling box & $50.00 for your trouble & time!! and you already have the pictures to prove it!!!
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Post by The Dad_Ohs on Sept 6, 2013 23:16:46 GMT -5
as a matter of fact, from now on I am asking for a receipt for a minimum of $50.00 for all rock sent through the mail to me and every ripped/crushed/destroyed box is going to have a claim filed on it for damaged/lost material. The Postmaster General will get the hint eventually and they will do something b4 they go bankrupt!!... at least I hope they will!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 17:45:11 GMT -5
yeah, I'd need to produce a commercial invoice for the claim.
Mario, if it ever works for you, post results here. I have yet to hear of anyone ever prevailing on a claim with the USPS. As far as I am concerned their "insurance" is bogus.
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Post by gemfeller on Sept 7, 2013 21:36:53 GMT -5
I have yet to hear of anyone ever prevailing on a claim with the USPS. As far as I am concerned their "insurance" is bogus. I haven't lost too many USPS shipments but the two times I have I received insurance payments in full although it took a while to go through the red tape mill. I think trying to claim insurance for a broken package of rocks may be wishful thinking. It looks more like improper packaging by the shipper to me. If I was going to send a mess 0' rocks like that I'd bag them in tough sacks or reinforce the boxes as has been suggested. It's the weight-shifting inside the box from loose rocks that busts it.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 7, 2013 21:53:37 GMT -5
Be interesting to try fiber glassing the inside of a box, and seeing how much work they had to do to damage the box. I'm thinking of cutting the corners out of boxes and glueing them inside the corners of boxes I'm going to send out. I already glue the corner tabs of small FRB's I send out.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 7, 2013 21:56:50 GMT -5
Scott, you might want to remove the next to last pic, unless you don't mind the world having your home address.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 21:59:36 GMT -5
Scott, you might want to remove the next to last pic, unless you don't mind the world having your home address. Thanks Don. They can have that address. It's a business address, not my home. I do thank you kindly for noticing and thinking of that for me. Very kind, sir, thank you.
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Post by jakesrocks on Sept 7, 2013 22:04:45 GMT -5
No problem. I've posted mine a few times by accident, and have been warned about it by the kind folks on here.
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