jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Sept 19, 2013 15:08:18 GMT -5
This one is hiding in the crevices and voids of about every rock in the fast flowing shoal areas. He is smart and has great vision. As you bring another object within a foot of him he raises up on his rear legs to transfer on to it. I did not agitate him as i still have swelling in the evenings from the toe biter. And it itches like crazy from the healing flesh he damaged. Some were half again as long but twice as wide. I have no idea what it is.  Typical larger rock that you would find them on.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 15:10:09 GMT -5
ain't that a hellgrammite? Predatory sums-o-batches they is. It is a larval dragonfly. welcome home.  |
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Post by jamesp on Sept 19, 2013 15:45:00 GMT -5
A dobsonfly, not a dragonfly Scott. I know that was a typo. Thanks, nice to be back. I could live in that little town(Lake Park,GA). The friendliest place on earth. And something in the water or all the daughters of Miss Americas live there. The town is full of circular lakes about 300-2000 feet in diameter. Deep funnel lakes w/giant cypress. They are all sinks.  |
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Post by bhiatt on Sept 19, 2013 16:04:27 GMT -5
wow thats pretty wicked looking creature. Interesting stuff.
Hows the coral trip going? Finding the good schtuff?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 16:21:26 GMT -5
SKOOLED--------------------------!! In Cali we call dragonffly larvae hellgramites. Incorrectly it seems. Holy cr@p!!  We aint got those west of the continental divide. Wow! A new species for me. Love it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 16:59:06 GMT -5
When I was a kid we fished with what my dad called hellgrammites on, I believe, the Madison river in Montana. We would roll over rocks in the crystal clear river to find them. I have not heard the word since so it brought back some memories but not good enough memories to remember what they looked like.
Jim
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Sept 19, 2013 19:45:40 GMT -5
That looks like a good bait Jim. As long as doesn't stick any poisons. The dobson fly is up to 5 inches long. They are safe to handle.
That river was loaded w/hellbug.
I just unloaded about 1200 pounds coral and pressure washed most of it. I am beat. Left at 3 AM got here 8AM. Did real well.
I just looked up hell bug and learned about the dobsonfly. You and Jim knew what it that it was a hell bug.
There was 3 other bugs and an incredible leech that was reaching for me(saw him while snorkeling)
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Post by Pat on Sept 19, 2013 23:55:42 GMT -5
Welcome back! Hope you are going to show us your 1200 pounds of coral. What are you going to do with all that?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 7:20:34 GMT -5
Unloaded it yesterday Pat. It is in nursery buckets and separated by vein/shoal location/size and type best i could.
Much of it is for cooking.
Learning the habitat for the coral is real diverse.
For instance, a permanent (probably ancient) tannic acid runoff from the swampy floodplains is the main source of dog crap colored coral that heats to tangerine. That was one of my main targets
and i had a hard time collecting/filling 80 pound bucket of it. And the were only from the outer layer of imploded huge corals that had mal formed centers. So it was the 1-2 inch layer of these
large corals. Just saying that i have to find weird conditions affected by soil, water type and size/type of coral.
To answer your question Pat i am stock piling it. It will be illegal to collect some day. It already is in much of Florida. My old coral buddy's friend sold 300 pounds of heated coral heads from old
Tampa Bay stock for a bunch.
And the knapers will buy it buy the inch on slabs.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 7:29:29 GMT -5
Scott-those dobsonflies are weird in that their long whiskers and those wimpy pinchers are always moving. The antennae whiskers are moving constantly and independently.
I rarely find them. They must spend their life as a lowly water creature. My kind a bug.
Check out a psuedomorph Brad. I located a vein of them in a gemmy vein of coral. They will have to be dug. I will post it in specimens. It's purdy one
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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 7:48:22 GMT -5
Sorry about the language but these guys are freaked by a dobsonfly especially when it flies at them |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 20, 2013 8:56:57 GMT -5
Those bugs are the things of nightmares!
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 20, 2013 10:02:30 GMT -5
Good trout bait.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 20, 2013 10:06:05 GMT -5
Bill, your damn ant is going to drive me crazy!!!
EDIT - Is it gone for good? I was just looking for a frog GIF to take care of it...
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Post by grayfingers on Sept 20, 2013 13:34:02 GMT -5
Yeah Jean, me too. I'm still working the bugs out of my signature. . .
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Post by Toad on Sept 20, 2013 15:11:20 GMT -5
Dang, makes me never want to go in water that isn't chlorinated...
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