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Post by sheltie on Sept 29, 2013 16:18:34 GMT -5
I know this subject has been discussed a lot of times, but I'm confused - again.
We just got a BD 10" trim/slab saw and while reading some of the material about it I noticed that it stated that use of water will void the warranty. However, in the section of what kind of lubricant to use, it mentioned "water soluble" lubricants. Huh? I plan on calling the company in the morning for a clarification because while I have a warranty, I want to comply with it.
I've also seen mention of people using the RV antifreeze. While the manual specifically says NOT to use it, I know that many have. I use oil in my larger saw so I know that's ok. I bought a gallon of LubriKool (water soluble!) from BD when I bought the saw. What are some other RELIABLE lubricants I can safely use with this saw?
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Post by Rockoonz on Sept 29, 2013 22:35:48 GMT -5
Perhaps they are referring to straight water with no additives voiding the warranty. AFAIAC water based coolants should only be used on 8 inch or smaller saws, and then only with a sintered blade.
Lee
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 29, 2013 22:43:58 GMT -5
I guess if it rusts they can say no warrenty
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Post by orrum on Sept 30, 2013 8:29:31 GMT -5
Use the name brand RV antifreeze. I tried the Walmart generic stuff this summer and it A. Does not lubricate as well, even straight and I use the name brand in a 50/50 mix. B. It lets everything rust. C. It bubbles and foams a lot worse. D. Its really not that much cheaper, actually more expensive when you figure out you cant mix it with water!
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Post by robsrockshop on Sept 30, 2013 8:32:14 GMT -5
That is confusing. For sure don't use straight water, maybe they are ok with an additive? Lubrikool is probably what they want you to use if that voided the warranty there's nothing that wouldn't. I would just use the lubrikool and not worry about it.
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Oct 2, 2013 18:24:16 GMT -5
When I told them I was using Gemlube on mine, they didn't blink an eye.
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 2, 2013 20:26:41 GMT -5
The "oil only" is a carry over from the old days. They sell enough saws to labs and universities that all their trim and slab saws are able to cope. The BD7 and BD10 are all aluminum and only the blade and galvanized blade nut will rust. At both Tucson and Denver shows we used water soluble coolants in the demo BD10. Even their HP14 and larger they started plating all cast iron carriage parts to accommodate the customers that can't use oil for various reasons. You won't affect your warranty with the BD 10. With Lube Cool drain after use and wipe blade dry or spray with WD40. We left the "Smokey's EZ Cut" in the saw at Denver show for almost ten days with no problem. I've heard the coolant Kingsley North sells is good and can be left in the saw as well. They are supposed to change their blade literature to say "oil is preferable" instead of the "oil must be used" but have not yet.
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Post by Rockoonz on Oct 2, 2013 23:57:30 GMT -5
Since WD40 means it is Water Displacer 40 spraying a blade after use is fine if you plan to use the saw again soon, for longer term storage use an actual rust inhibitor. I did a test for my employer a few years back where I sprayed a freshly sandblasted piece of steel with WD40 and placed it, with another piece sandblasted and not treated in any way, under a semi trailer used for storage, outdoors but not in direct rain . A few months later whem I remembered they were there I pulled them out and the WD40 sample was significantly more rusted.
Lee
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