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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 20:41:21 GMT -5
I have been trying to figure our how to wrap this Georgia coral almost since I got the stuff from James six months ago. I am going to have to re wrap this because of some dings and I need to cross over different on the back. I think that the reason wrapping this stone works this way is because I used two wires. I have wrapped stones in this way but used single wire and it looked cheap. Maybe this looks cheap also but with my experience (you could put it in your eye) I could not come up with a different way to do it. Maybe one of you will have a suggestion.  I experimented with a different (for me) type of wrap and it did not turn out so well. If I would have used two large wires going around the cab I think it would have worked. The wire that I used was a twisted wire and I could not get the bail to come out right.   Since just the bail was screwed up I went to a smaller stone and cut the bad ends off. It almost worked but the bail was just not quite right again.    Those were my learning curves for those two and I will get them right the next time. I hope. No, I will. Any suggestions are ok by me and thanks for stopping by. Maybe next time we will have time for coffee. Jim BTW The last cab is a Krystee cab with my pretty finger prints all over it. |
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Post by orrum on Oct 8, 2013 21:00:53 GMT -5
Hey I think the coral is super cool! The copper wire and rough edge and all just looks great!
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Post by orrum on Oct 8, 2013 21:01:28 GMT -5
Hey I think the coral is super cool! The copper wire and rough edge and all just looks great!
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Post by wireholic on Oct 9, 2013 10:38:07 GMT -5
I love the way you did the coral! Simple, secure & keeps all the attention on the rock. The other one is pretty cool too, I never would have thought to use picture hanging cable to wrap a stone.
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Post by pghram on Oct 9, 2013 12:28:46 GMT -5
Good for you for experimenting. I think the coral came out well with the two wires.
Rich
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 17:02:10 GMT -5
Thanks all.
Karen, you must have hung some pictures lately to have recognized the cable. lol
I would suggest that you all should not use cable to do your wraps. The only reason I used it is because I wanted something large so it would be easier to do the lace. I do not know what I am going to use now. Maybe I will twist a few silver wires together. Having three wires in the cable would be much easier to work with.
Jim
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Post by wireholic on Oct 9, 2013 17:56:56 GMT -5
Try using 18 or 16 guage wire for the frame and 24 or smaller to do the weaving.
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Post by drocknut on Oct 11, 2013 16:46:00 GMT -5
Good for you experimenting. I've never worked with picture hanging wire in a wrap but an interesting idea. I'd say you are on the right track with thinking of using two or three wires twisted together instead of the picture wire. It seems to me that would make the bail way easier to form.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 17:44:40 GMT -5
Thanks Diane. I still have a lot of experimenting to do. I drilled some holes in a board, put some pegs in the holes and stretched the wire around the pegs. I figured that it would be tight enough to lace 28 gauge wire between them without pulling them closer together. WRONG LOL I am going to have to figure out some kind of spacers to keep the two main wires the same width all the way down while I am lacing. It is going to be one of those things where I have to look at a lot of things until I come up with something that will work. I think it is going to look great once I get it figured out. I have not seen anything like it before (not that I have seen a lot of different wraps) so maybe I can start a trend.
BTW what does a drock nut look like? Or are you a drock and a nut? Nuts are the best kind of people by the way. lol
Jim
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Post by wireholic on Oct 11, 2013 18:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 19:01:45 GMT -5
That is why I put the pegs in the board so I could weave straight but in order to have one wire on each side of the cab so it will hold it I have to have a wide weave. When making the wide weave the weave wire tends to pull the main wires together. This is where the problem comes from, trying to keep the two main wires parallel and not getting closer to each other. It is a trick I will have to master with some practice and some swearing.
Jim
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 11, 2013 21:50:59 GMT -5
Great way to experiment!!! I love what you did on the first one and the experiment was really cool to look at. I've done a bunch like this. It's not terribly easy. You'll get it.  |
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Post by riverrock on Oct 14, 2013 7:00:14 GMT -5
That first one works for me. I have not tried the weave wrap as of yet. It looks like it would take a lot of try's , so keep us updated on your progress.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 7:10:44 GMT -5
Tela messaged me and showed me what I need to do. It will be much much easier now. Maybe we can talk Tela into posting what she showed to me so others can try this wrap also. I should have gone to her first because she seems to have the answer to every question.
I hope you are getting better Tela. Sucks when you can not do what you enjoy.
Jim
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 15, 2013 12:46:29 GMT -5
Hey Jim, I'm not up for any tutes anytime soon, but I'm posting what I wrote to you. There are probably easier ways of doing this, but it is how I do it. I use 20 and 22, but to start- heavier outside wires might be better. I am attempting some wrapping today..... hope it goes well. (I mean 16-18 for OUTSIDE wires. You can use 22 or 24 g for the weave) I should add that the weave wire should go all the way around the outside wire when you get to it. Here's a couple pics with 20 and 22 g wire.   |
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Post by pghram on Oct 16, 2013 14:02:31 GMT -5
rockjunquie, thank you for sharing your skills.
Rich
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Post by wireholic on Oct 17, 2013 12:17:57 GMT -5
That is why I put the pegs in the board so I could weave straight but in order to have one wire on each side of the cab so it will hold it I have to have a wide weave. When making the wide weave the weave wire tends to pull the main wires together. This is where the problem comes from, trying to keep the two main wires parallel and not getting closer to each other. It is a trick I will have to master with some practice and some swearing. Jim One way to keep from pulling the frame wires together is to wrap the weaving wire around each frame wire once or twice before going across to the other wire. Here's one I did on a pyramid shaped piece of Poppy Jasper: ![]() ![]() |
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Post by drocknut on Oct 31, 2013 22:47:46 GMT -5
Thanks Diane. I still have a lot of experimenting to do. I drilled some holes in a board, put some pegs in the holes and stretched the wire around the pegs. I figured that it would be tight enough to lace 28 gauge wire between them without pulling them closer together. WRONG LOL I am going to have to figure out some kind of spacers to keep the two main wires the same width all the way down while I am lacing. It is going to be one of those things where I have to look at a lot of things until I come up with something that will work. I think it is going to look great once I get it figured out. I have not seen anything like it before (not that I have seen a lot of different wraps) so maybe I can start a trend. BTW what does a drock nut look like? Or are you a drock and a nut? Nuts are the best kind of people by the way. lol Jim Oh boy a trend setter, that could be great. Actually I don't know what a drock nut looks like but I'm d rock nut...lol. A guy I worked with called me a rocknut which I took as a compliment. |
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