jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Nov 2, 2013 21:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by snuffy on Nov 2, 2013 21:51:42 GMT -5
Pretty fine stuff there.
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Post by quartz on Nov 2, 2013 21:57:40 GMT -5
Lots of ooohhhs & aaawwwws from Carol and I. Thanks for the show. Larry
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Post by bsky4463 on Nov 3, 2013 7:47:40 GMT -5
Way cool. Each one is a piece of art. I bet they are even more engaging in person. Great job and yes you to need to find more. Cheers.
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Post by grayfingers on Nov 3, 2013 9:23:44 GMT -5
Amazing colors and patterns! I wonder how many different species of corals you are finding. So cool to see shapes of once living things from the ancient past, in silica gem rocks. that's what I really like about pet wood too.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 10:16:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the compliments folks. My little niche is keeping me happy since new colors and patterns are showing up in my explorations.
Starting to figure out which environments are creating the color. And which locations fracture free usable material. New locations keep popping up. All is good.
The coral from Black Bay(a small community of African descent) was found by accident. I simply saw what looked like a coral head graded off to the side in the ditch while driving by. Got out and walked a mile of the road and collected. The motor grader nipped the vein somewhere. I never found where so it was slim picking compared to finding even a tiny portion of the vein. But that 30 mile circle is rich in coral if you can find creeks,ravines,rivers or excavations. I think every square foot has the coral layer 1-2 feet thick. You just have to find a place that the 20+ feet of sand covering it has been removed. The vein does surface in some locations. Often in little clay hills that seem to have risen 20-100 feet from the surrounding grade for no good reason. So hiking thru the numerous state forest surrounding the rivers will pay off too. But the coral on 2 of those hills i found was colorless,clear fracture free. I think the lower corals are effected more by heavy minerals leaching in and making them more colorful.My coral mentor collected cut and sold about all his from a 5 acre lot in Zephyr Hills Florida. For 40 years. And it was his biggest volume product at his full time rock shop. So it does not take a large area to collect a lot.
Instead of climbing 6000 feet to a agate strewn lava field i climb 30 feet up a wimp ass hill or 20 feet down into reptile habitat. But both have challenges.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 10:34:15 GMT -5
The variety of wood way surpasses the variety of corals - my guess Bill. Unless the +/-6 sided corallite represents a lot of different varieties. The corallites are variable. And the answer would be at the Univ. of Florida. This 'for sale' site has a bit of info. The last 2 items are in a different category.The clams that bore leave their mark on most coral i find. www.paleodirect.com/coral1.htm
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 11:04:39 GMT -5
WooHoo dude, you gotta some mity fine colors in that stuff.
Two small items left on my propane install so maybe I should head southeast. How many snakes do you run into on a search like that? At a distance they are ok as long as they mind their own business but being surprised up close I go into panic mode and have to change cloths if I live. Is there good search and rescue there and is there cell phone service all around that area? I may not be cut out for the south east. Never mind. Jim
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 11:19:36 GMT -5
The snakes are the worst when it is cool out and they are sunning themselves on the bank of the river. They are slow to move and quick to bite. Watch where you step and you are fine.
Cell phone coverage ain't gonna happen. But if you leave the boat and walk 6-8 miles you will cross a road. Good enough.
If those conditions suit you then all is well.
It's usually the bees and gators that present the concerns...
Get that tank finished and get down here Jim.
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Post by Fossilman on Nov 3, 2013 11:22:25 GMT -5
Awesome coral James!
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 11:27:42 GMT -5
Fossilized coral of Florida. I think all the coral i find is from the order 'scleractinia' at the bottom section. But i find coral with variable corallites. I am not sure what 'order' means www.flmnh.ufl.edu/invertpaleo/gallery.asp?gallery=Florida%20CnidariaNevermind. Scleractinia only means coral with hard skeletons-"Scleractinia, also called stony corals" Here. This is more complicated than i bloody thought. How dang many categories do biologic people need?@!
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Post by fla on Nov 3, 2013 12:59:15 GMT -5
Love that coral. never seen such vivid colors. How do you do this.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 13:40:35 GMT -5
Most of that is collected in Georgia and Florida rivers and creeks fla. Some of the colors have been altered by heat.
Always liked the colors, texture and forms of it. Probably the creeks and rivers are the best part though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 14:56:39 GMT -5
Jim it's really Just kingsom, phylum, class, order, genus, species. And the only REAL division is species. Organisms know about species, this for reproductive purposes. The cant care less about the rest. But we humans must classify things to make them orderly and easily understood.
Coral -
Kingdom - Animalia Phylum - Cnidaria Order - Anthozoa
and then the human scientists have broken corals in to 11 Families, each of those split into genera and the genera all containing species.
Yeah, that didn't help, did it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 14:57:29 GMT -5
You never seem to run out of new varieties, colors, patterns... really remarkable. Humbles me to see it.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 16:23:15 GMT -5
Jim it's really Just kingsom, phylum, class, order, genus, species. And the only REAL division is species. Organisms know about species, this for reproductive purposes. The cant care less about the rest. But we humans must classify things to make them orderly and easily understood. Coral - Kingdom - Animalia Phylum - Cnidaria Order - Anthozoa and then the human scientists have broken corals in to 11 Families, each of those split into genera and the genera all containing species. Yeah, that didn't help, did it. It helped a lot. 11 families. Then it goes genera and then species. The genera and species is about good enough.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 16:27:14 GMT -5
Phylum: CNIDARIA Class: ANTHOZOA Order: SCLERACTINIA Family: FAVIIDAE Genus: MONTASTRAEA Species: ANNULARIS So Scott. Would i call this coral 'montastraea annularis' just as i would call yellow flag iris 'iris psuedoacorus' ? i.e. genus first species second-right?
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Post by wireholic on Nov 3, 2013 16:35:51 GMT -5
Beautiful! Love that first one
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Post by jamesp on Nov 3, 2013 18:01:15 GMT -5
Thanks Karen. That one was heat treated. And since it is a pretty color it is hard to find-go figure. Only found 2 corals that had that color and they were very large. So it's a motherloader(is that a legal word?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 18:27:22 GMT -5
Jim it's really Just kingsom, phylum, class, order, genus, species. And the only REAL division is species. Organisms know about species, this for reproductive purposes. The cant care less about the rest. But we humans must classify things to make them orderly and easily understood. Coral - Kingdom - Animalia Phylum - Cnidaria Order - Anthozoa and then the human scientists have broken corals in to 11 Families, each of those split into genera and the genera all containing species. Yeah, that didn't help, did it. I can see keeping things neat and orderly but why in the hell do they have to give them names that nobody can spell or pronounce. This coral can be called chuck and this coral can be called bill and that coral could even be called whooya. Anything but the scientific crap they use. Just think about all the kids that would get into science if they did not have to remember pseudopodia. Jim
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