kellyj
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Post by kellyj on Dec 15, 2013 9:38:54 GMT -5
Good day,
I have been collecting rocks for over a year now. How I get my agates clean (or try to) is by soaking them for 24 hours in a white vinegar and water solution. This usually works but for some of the stubborn sedimentation I still have an issue. I was wondering what other people use and what works good for them?
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herchenx
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Post by herchenx on Dec 15, 2013 10:02:56 GMT -5
My kids like to leave them in their pockets and run them through the laundry. My wife gets a little irritated when they do it though. She has to stop the dryer every week or so, more in the summer, to get a clanger out. I tumble, cut or grind almost everything so I don't do much scrubbing. When I do I use iron out in a covered bucket in the garage, gloves and only open it outdoors. Toothbrush in a deep sink sometimes Pressure washer in the driveway
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Post by catmandewe on Dec 15, 2013 10:12:12 GMT -5
I lick mine. 100% usda recommended minerals and vitamins. Not recommended for green or red rocks though as some of those have chemicals you shouldn't be licking. (copper and mercury)
Tony
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 15, 2013 11:37:42 GMT -5
LOL,at catmandewe.........When I hunt rocks,I lick my finds..Wife hates that-LOL.... I soak my rocks in dawn dish soap,than fresh water,scrub with a toothbrush.. Sometimes soak them in rustout or something similiar.....
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Post by roy on Dec 15, 2013 13:33:24 GMT -5
lickem watch out for the dino turds though they taste bad!!!
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GeorgeStoneStore
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Post by GeorgeStoneStore on Dec 15, 2013 14:27:28 GMT -5
24-hour soak, soapy water and a nail brush It usually remove all fouling. If iron oxide content (yellow-red) deposits on the already difficult case. Use Iron-Out (I think in the states so familiar) This will remove iron oxide.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 15, 2013 16:28:55 GMT -5
Good day,
I have been collecting rocks for over a year now. How I get my agates clean (or try to) is by soaking them for 24 hours in a white vinegar and water solution. This usually works but for some of the stubborn sedimentation I still have an issue. I was wondering what other people use and what works good for them? Hydrochloric (muriatic) acid will remove carbonates from the agate really well. There are several acids that can be used to remove iron stains. These include hydrochloric, phosphoric, oxalic or citric acids. Remember though that if you are not familiar with handling or using these chemicals research their handling and safety issues thoroughly first.
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Post by vegasjames on Dec 15, 2013 16:32:50 GMT -5
I lick mine. 100% usda recommended minerals and vitamins. Not recommended for green or red rocks though as some of those have chemicals you shouldn't be licking. (copper and mercury) Tony I know you are joking, but some people may read that and take it serious. So I want to point out there are other toxic rocks that do not fit that color criteria. Look at beryllium and lead containing rocks. Both metals impart a sweet taste, but I would not recommend licking either one of them.
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Mark K
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Post by Mark K on Dec 16, 2013 7:14:35 GMT -5
Good day,
I have been collecting rocks for over a year now. How I get my agates clean (or try to) is by soaking them for 24 hours in a white vinegar and water solution. This usually works but for some of the stubborn sedimentation I still have an issue. I was wondering what other people use and what works good for them? Hydrochloric (muriatic) acid will remove carbonates from the agate really well. There are several acids that can be used to remove iron stains. These include hydrochloric, phosphoric, oxalic or citric acids. Remember though that if you are not familiar with handling or using these chemicals research their handling and safety issues thoroughly first. I usually wash with the hose on my special cleaning bench which is assembled outside each spring. If the crud on the rocks is something like heavy mud, I soak the stuff in buckets for a few days to saturate the mud and then hit it with the hose. Afterwards if it has something undesirable on it which I can dissolve with acid, I sometimes do so. Usually though, I will not use the acid unless it is of benefit. Sometimes the hard crud is not going to hurt anything and is easily removed when saw time comes. There are times however when placing a small piece in the acid is used as a tool for identification or clarification. Here are some basic tips for working with acid. 1. Use it outside only. 2. Try to keep the operation downwind from your work area and everything else if possible. It produces fumes which can corrode everything they touch. 3. Keep it away from metals. Especially aluminum. Aluminum reacts violently with acid. 4. Eye protection. 5. You will want the proper gloves. 6. Babysit the process. 7. Keep all children, morons, jackasses, and fools away from your operation. 8. Keep the hose handy. Clean, clear water is your friend in case you need to decon in a hurry. 9. When mixing acid, water goes into the container first. Acid is added to the water. Never the opposite. 10. Plan for an emergency with the chemicals ahead of time. If I missed something or mis-typed something please point it out. Additions are encouraged.
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Post by jamesp on Dec 16, 2013 9:45:01 GMT -5
Too the car wash and put the rocks in a basket on the ground and let em have it. Leave the mud for them to deal with. I have my own 44 magnum pressure washer handle that allows precise targeting.
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Post by mohs on Dec 16, 2013 11:54:32 GMT -5
I soak mine in beer they may not come clean but happy rocks mostly
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GeorgeStoneStore
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Post by GeorgeStoneStore on Dec 16, 2013 15:22:19 GMT -5
Yes, this is Important
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2013 19:37:53 GMT -5
I use the pressure washer at the coin op car wash. It will come off in the tumbler too. Or you could put them in a tube sock (tie it closed) and use herchenx method with no clangers.
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kellyj
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Post by kellyj on Dec 20, 2013 8:50:32 GMT -5
Thanks all!
I have been using white vinegar to clean my rocks...it does an alright job. I think I will stay away from the acid though it seems too risky (I have one person that has the Beavis and Butthead mentality).
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quartz
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Post by quartz on Dec 20, 2013 16:14:55 GMT -5
Ran across this idea the other day, had to try it; homemade ultrasonic cleaner. Not knowing if it would work, I did it on the cheap using a bucket with a brittle top and a palm sander we got with some stuff at a contractor-going-broke sale [$2]. I cut a couple pieces of sheetmetal 1/2" wide and drilled them. I attached the sheetmetal to the sander using the grip rods normally used to hold the sandpaper, centered it on the bucket bottom, and match drilled the bucket for the screws. Attached sander to bucket using 1/4" pan head screws so as to get a bigger head diameter. Made gaskets under each screw head by cutting a little piece of innertube and punched a 1/4" hole in the center. Hex head bolts with washers would work too, with the gasket under the washer. To support this bucket, I bent the bucket bail straight and cut it into 3 equal pieces about 8" long, bent an inch over to have a place to grab for removal, and used them and the elect cord between this bucket and another that I slipped this one into, so the two buckets wouldn't wedge together. Pulled the rods and the buckets came apart. This keeps the sander from resting on anything. Found some very craggy, dirty, unwashed rocks out back, mixed 2 tbs. Dawn in a gallon of hot tap water, put the rocks in and ran it for ten minutes. The thing works. Looked it at after the first run, then tried it again for another ten minutes, very little more came off the rocks. This has to be run on a soft surface [lawn] so the assembly doesn't walk off. It won't take the "embedded in the rock" dirt off, but it did a good job on dirt-mud. Works better than a garden hose with a pressure nozzle on it, and I didn't get soaked. The noise level is about the same as running the sander in it's intended use. I used a Dremel to cut the center of the bucket bottom flat.
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Post by Hard Rock Cafe on Dec 20, 2013 17:08:39 GMT -5
Just to be clear, vinegar is also acid (acetic), just diluted.
Chuck
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