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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 13:08:43 GMT -5
Trying to make some order out of all the rocks on my patio. Rocks everywhere! I have rocks in bags, boxes, and buckets that all need to get gone through, marked where they came from and when. And also to put some into queue for cutting.
The other day, I went through stuff collected in the North Cady Mountains in mid-November. I came across this, which I think may be another artifact. Now, just because the last one I posted from Indian Pass has been identified as some sort of tool, does not mean I think that everything I come across is, lol! This stone from the No. Cadys is not what I would normally think of as a man-made tool. The shape is all wrong.
However, put I into your right hand, and you can feel the fit, and see how it was used. The chips from both sides of the cutting/scraping edge, are to me, the giveaway. 
Doesn't quite work in the left hand. Wonder if the ratio of righties to lefties was about the same back then as now? 
The proper fit
The entire stone.
The business edge
This is my left thumb and owie - still can't shake those splits. Please also notice thumbnail, since I do not chew my nails down to nubs, lol.
I would be excited to hear y'all's thought on this. Thanks for looking.
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Post by halitedigger on Feb 11, 2014 13:51:34 GMT -5
Could be a skinning tool or mother nature.
Be very careful what you post online. NSA is listening and it's a big no no to pick up artifacts.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2014 14:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 14:58:16 GMT -5
Could be a skinning tool or mother nature. Be very careful what you post online. NSA is listening and it's a big no no to pick up artifacts. Yes, it must be Mother Nature... Good thing I'm not paranoid. Methinks they have much more important perps to spend millions and millions of dollars to track down than me, people that rob graves and deal in stolen antiquities... But yes, I do understand, thanks for the word of caution. Again, this was just a rock when I brought it home. Who knows? It might still be just a rock.
Ha ha, you too funny, jamesp. The key is to be in good with the aliens. How do you think I've lucked into finding these sorts of things, and fossils, too?
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 11, 2014 16:35:04 GMT -5
Hmmm. The piece does show some indication of alternate side flaking that gives it kind of the zig zag edge look of artifacts. I suppose that could happen if it were bounced around in a stream bed but if it were found in a high and dry spot, I'd think maybe the chipping was man made....Mel
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 19:17:31 GMT -5
Well, it came from the North Cady Mountains. That's in the desert, not somewhere in a high-rainfall area full of streams and rivers. But, although there's not an abundance of rainfall in the Cadys (pretty much definition of a desert!), water is the predominant force that that sculpts the desert. Think flash floods.
I can't tell you exactly where it was found, because, again, it looked unremarkable and has sat in a bucket since mid-November, masquerading as a rock.
Soooo... sounds like s possible maybe... Probably don't have to worry about being a criminal with this one. Thanks, Mel.
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 11, 2014 19:49:09 GMT -5
In my Cadys wanderings I have seen a good number of artifacts. I four wheeled it from the south at hwy 40 clear to Basin Road one time and encountered big village sites at Mesquite Springs and in Mesquite Hills, an area of big dunes north of that big dry lake north of Hwy 40. Also lots of Amerind activity around the Cronise Lakes across Hwy 15 from basin road. Seen stuff in Afton canyon too. Afton Canyon was also supposedly the route the Spanish took across the Mojave. Gotta love wandering in the Cadys...Mel
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 20:04:17 GMT -5
Notice the genetic mutation identical in the left thumb of both specimens.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 20:46:56 GMT -5
Scott, it is not genetic, it's what happens when you are constantly getting your hands wet, drying them, getting them wet, repeat... The owie can be corrected by applying liberal amounts of O'Keeffes "Working Hands" cream numerous times during the day. When you get your hands wet, reapply it. Yeah, I'm not too good at doing that. You'd think I'd try harder, since splits are painful, and when they are on opposing thumb and index finger make it near impossible to do anything.
Although short, you'll notice that at least I have a thumbnail. No fingernail chewing for this person... unlike a couple of others I know.
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Post by radio on Feb 11, 2014 20:47:34 GMT -5
Those deep splits hurt like H E double hockey sticks too! Mine sometimes get so bad they bleed and the only thing I have found to really help is Neutrogena Norwegian formula hand cream. I cut the fingers out of some thin latex exam gloves, apply some of the cream and roll the makeshift finger cots on fingers and/or thumb. I do this at bedtime so they soften and heal while I sleep. A few nights of doing this can make a big difference Oh, and I have tried to get in the habit of wearing latex gloves while cabbing when possible. Most of the time I buy the cheap blue nitrile gloves from Harbor Freight for about $6 per hundred. I can usually get several wearings out of a pair before they rip or I cut holes in them. Get the size smaller than you really need and they won't bunch up on your fingers and get in the way  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 20:53:34 GMT -5
Oh, you betcha they hurt, radio! Yeah, mine get deep cracks and bleed, too. I've even put super glue on them to get them to stop bleeding. They're better now than they were a couple weeks ago.
The Working Hands will also do the job in about three days, if you can just remember to reapply it all the time. It's 'sposed to be a greaseless formula, but just try to turn a doorknob after you've put it on, lol.
I agree, applying some sort of cream/lotion (Jerkins, Scott?) and then finger cots or gloves before going to bed is the ticket.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2014 21:45:27 GMT -5
I gotta stop sucking my thumb. Hell, i'm 57 years old. I think my wife wears a little soft rubber cap on hers with Neosporin applied. Jean earns hers. Making those 60 inch stone balls. I can not imagine.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 21:54:23 GMT -5
James, I thought you were telling people the aliens bit me, and you got your ouchie from rasslin' gators. Which is it??
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Post by radio on Feb 11, 2014 22:41:37 GMT -5
Oh, you betcha they hurt, radio! Yeah, mine get deep cracks and bleed, too. I've even put super glue on them to get them to stop bleeding. They're better now than they were a couple weeks ago. The Working Hands will also do the job in about three days, if you can just remember to reapply it all the time. It's 'sposed to be a greaseless formula, but just try to turn a doorknob after you've put it on, lol. I agree, applying some sort of cream/lotion (Jerkins, Scott?) and then finger cots or gloves before going to bed is the ticket. And the super glue or instant skin stuff either one burns like the fires of Hades as well! Get yourself a tube of the Neutrogena Norwegian formula hand cream and try it with finger cots. It's more expensive than the other lotions and creams though. I've tried just about everything trying to be frugal, and while most cheaper lotions will help, the Neutrogena does the trick much faster. |
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Post by quartz on Feb 11, 2014 23:16:22 GMT -5
I have the same problem with thumb splits in winter, found best solution to be Bag Balm. Comes in a square green can. The stuff is normally associated with cow teats, but works great on dry skin and thumb cracks, and cheap compared to the fancy human stuff. Find at good drug store or farm supply.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 23:24:10 GMT -5
I think you can even get that at Home Depot. (Where I spend the second-most amount of money, after Costco, lol)
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 11, 2014 23:26:38 GMT -5
Bag Balm from the horse supply store. great for the hands...Mel
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2014 23:31:39 GMT -5
James, I thought you were telling people the aliens bit me, and you got your ouchie from rasslin' gators. Which is it?? All of the above. Multi talented. |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 11, 2014 23:33:06 GMT -5
Bag balm ? Utterly amazing !
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 11, 2014 23:34:13 GMT -5
Not going to say it....
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