Tommy
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Post by Tommy on May 18, 2014 0:37:18 GMT -5
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deedolce
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Post by deedolce on May 18, 2014 1:20:43 GMT -5
Yowch, too rich for my blood! It's a beautiful boulder, though.
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Post by Toad on May 18, 2014 5:19:02 GMT -5
Looks like great material but way too expensive for me...
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Post by NM Stone Supply on May 18, 2014 8:25:15 GMT -5
Yea, they better pay another years storage right away because at that price they won't be selling much.
Nice piece though. Thanks for sharing.
Jason
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Post by Sabre52 on May 18, 2014 16:26:17 GMT -5
Nice fairly solid looking hunk but almost twice the highest per pound price I've seen similar stuff for at shows....Mel
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 17:29:14 GMT -5
I once bought a deceased friend's reptile collection. His daughter was basing her asking price on conversations she had with dad... This tortoise is worth $1500-......... This snake is worth $1000-............ The daughter felt she had $60,000 worth of animals. Times change and so do prices. Dad is dead and the ENTIRE collection needed rapid liquidation. The ability to make that happen must have some discount value as does simply buying a HUUUUGE volume. Truthfully, I bought the collection for $0.20 on the dollar. That made the headache of making it happen for the animal's and the family's sake worthwhile (but not extra profitable). I am totally comfortable with having taken care of my friend's daughter in this manner. In the present case the stone can sit in the backyard and when they get re-motivated to sell they will re-think price. It may take two or three iterations before they reach real market value. Tommy that rock is yours. You just don't know it yet. Neither does the seller. Call them back, make them your most generous offer and ask them to re-consider. When they turn you down, then ask them to keep your number stating the offer is good for a year. Put it in your calendar to call then in two months. Either it sold or more likely not. Then re-iterate your offer, making it good for another 12 months. Call back in two months. Lather rinse repeat until they decide to sell. I have used this method of buying for MANY valuable and profitable items in the last 30 years. The key is to know what your generous off is and keep making those calls until they finally get real. The twelve months offer makes you credible, calling back in two makes you serious. Sooner or later they will accept this now credible offer from the most serious buyer. I can here the followup call now: I got some really nice lizards this way. YMMV lol
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on May 18, 2014 19:01:19 GMT -5
Thanks Scott @shotgunner - that's well written advice that I'm sure would work but I didn't give you the whole story with the guy's response - he's one of us haha a cutter with grand delusions and experience to boot. Here's his whole response:
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 19:30:32 GMT -5
Oh..
Then yes, he must die first.
Then his descendants can throw it in the landfill.
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on May 19, 2014 0:04:25 GMT -5
LOVE Poppy Jasper!!! It's one of my favorite rocks. But in my opinion that piece is WAY overpriced. When I consider buying a large pricey piece of cabbing rough I try to base it's value on what the slab value will be minus costs and time of slabbing. And if you are buying it to slab and resale you'll have to adjust for profit margin. With a piece of Poppy Jasper this large I would never risk hammering it into smaller pieces or you may end up turning the best areas into tumbling rough. So you're probably either going to have to have 36" saw or pay someone who does to cut it for you. Personally I would rather have 70lbs of Poppy Jasper in a few pieces in sizes for 14" - 18" saws rather than in one 70lb chunk. So unless someone wants it for just a specimen in my opinion I believe the massive size hurts the per pound value. I wouldn't offer over $8 per pound for this rock. But I may just be living in the past. The first Poppy Jasper rough I ever bought was in 1973. It was Guadalupe Poppy Jasper I bought retail for $1.50 per pound at Science, Crafts & Hobbies store in Charlotte, NC. Larry C.
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Post by snowmom on May 19, 2014 5:59:36 GMT -5
and I thought poppy jasper was called that because of the pattern, not because the price makes your eyes pop! wow!
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on May 19, 2014 8:07:36 GMT -5
*L* yeah, I've been buying poppy jasper for like 50 years. I can remember getting good cabbing hunks for 75 cents per pound. Last big show I went to had low grade material at $5 per pound but if you wanted higher grade it was $15 per pound. One guy was selling nice slabs by the gram, which at 454 grams per pound, was over a hundred bucks a pound. Good material is drying up and getting rare and the only really nice stuff I've seen was at Bill Leslie's rock yard at Shafter, CA. He had a sphere sized, solid looking, boulder in his rock garden he would not sell me that I'd kill for *L*.....Mel
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luvtogrow
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Post by luvtogrow on May 19, 2014 10:33:49 GMT -5
That's a great looking boulder, at $15lb. At $30lb not so great looking. I live in Morgan Hill and collect/buy all I can get. Recently bought 15lb, very nice rocks(Morgan Hill poppyjasper) for $1 a pound, at a garage sale. The local rock store sells poppy jasper rough for $10lb. They keep the poppyjasper boulders (rough) in the back, so ask. I see plenty on ebay I'd like to get but can't/won't participate in those prices.
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on May 19, 2014 13:46:21 GMT -5
The local rock store sells poppy jasper rough for $10lb. Thanks for the reply - what store is your local rock store?
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luvtogrow
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Post by luvtogrow on May 19, 2014 17:52:21 GMT -5
The local rock store sells poppy jasper rough for $10lb. Thanks for the reply - what store is your local rock store? Acevedo's House of Poppy Jasper. I met the owner, Gino, by way of Stones in Motion owner, Ed aka Stoner, about a year before he opened his store on Monterey Rd. I had contacted Stoner on this board asking about where to get some morganhillpoppyjasper and we met at Gino's house. Proving that PJ is not as rare as advertised, there were pj boulders all over the place (not native to the property), collected from all over Morgan Hill, some much bigger than me. He's not the only one around here with huge caches of poppyjasper, but, he has a store.
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on May 19, 2014 18:18:09 GMT -5
That's awesome I didn't know about the being a store there. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 22:23:00 GMT -5
I will be heading up to Sacramento in August. Hopefully the kidlet will let me stop at Acevedo's so I can "shop" for a solid spheremaking piece. That 70# boulder kills me.
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luvtogrow
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Post by luvtogrow on Jul 4, 2015 15:16:46 GMT -5
Noticed they listed that boulder again, plus 100lbs of rough.
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Post by captbob on Jul 4, 2015 16:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by broseph82 on Jul 4, 2015 20:55:15 GMT -5
How in the heck is that a boulder?
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Jul 4, 2015 21:25:27 GMT -5
Thats a nice rock but im with broseph, when I think boulder I think of a truck stopper!
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