bsky4463
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Post by bsky4463 on Jun 27, 2014 14:34:43 GMT -5
Stumbled upon this...enjoy. Cheers
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bcrockhound
spending too much on rocks
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Post by bcrockhound on Jun 29, 2014 17:06:12 GMT -5
I enjoyed this very much. They don't wear any sort of masks, eh? Also thought it was funny/sad how they took the master carver's piece to a judge and the judge just got his son to change the whole thing, and then they never said what it would be worth.
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Post by kk on Jun 29, 2014 21:31:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the video. Besides showing excellent craftsmanship its incredibly entertaining. We know of both Lin Chau Ming and his friend Li Huan Chu here in Hong Kong, but have never heard of the boy who should be up and coming if he does something that the Chinese can accept. I found the "Judge" extremely entertaining. His face said it all! Thats the only type of face we foreigners get, if we dont show money first.  He certainly would not want to give a value on a renowned competition and likely wiggled his way out by suggesting having his son come into the fray. He will have paid the price for that since the video was shown in China. Thats simply not done; messing with another masters work. Unless you can improve it without question or doubt. The absence of closeups after the boy did his bit, and not showing any pieces of his with three colors, suggests that the film-crew was not too impressed. Personally, I adore all three men for their skills. Maybe the boy even more so, for his willingness to create contemporary and new designs, away from the traditional. But the fact remains in China as everywhere else in the world: the money is with wealthy collectors, who are older, and those are still looking for solely classic designs. One thing I hate to see shown in the video, but serves as a good reminder to all people buying Jade. The waxing; to give it the final polish. Waxing should come naturally through the oils of your skin while wearing, not like that on the quick. Its an open secret, and its easier to find waxes to buy in the shops here in Hong Kong than diamond-paste. |
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sampson
starting to spend too much on rocks
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Post by sampson on Jun 30, 2014 18:08:56 GMT -5
That was a nice video, thanks for posting.
I was also dismayed to see the waxing Kurt, I know it is traditionally accepted but i think with the level of technology and polishing products today that the wax only serves to hide a lackluster polish job or internal flaws in the carving itself. I believe that jade should show it's internal flaws as no stone is truly perfect. By showing it's flaws you accept the stone as it is and realize that it can be beautiful even though it is not perfect.
One this that i thought interesting was the fact that they said all the carvers were "masters", even the young boy. In my opinion a true master is one who has many, many thousands of hours (10-20k+) at carving and the boy has not lived long enough to be called a master. I think the title master is thrown about much too commonly when it comes to talking about jade carvers in an attempt to influence the price of many finished pieces.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 11:26:34 GMT -5
What I was told in China was that a carver becomes a master when they are as good as their teacher (a master). That is why they are so good at copying just about anything. They have been copying the master for 3000 or more years so there has to be some evolution there.
Some stones are impossible to polish but what they were showing was not third class jade and should take a perfect polish. Unless I was doing it. There has been some discussion about one person carving and another polishing. That can be taken two ways, a joint effort (which should be noted) or it is becoming like medicine where there is a specialist in everything. One friend in China carved bamboo incredibly well but his wife sanded everything. I looked at her as being as much the artist as he is. She could take a carving and make it sparkle. It was a joint effort and a very good one. Their aim was to make a living and they were doing just that. A carver in China has it pretty tough unless they are one of the elite.
I was pretty surprised when I started watching the video because I met that carver. I went to my friends shop and that man was there. My friend did not speak English real well but he got the point across that the man was a really good carver and famous there in China.
Jim
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