sak
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Post by sak on Jul 13, 2014 18:19:54 GMT -5
Hi all - I just purchased the large & small ceramic angled cylinder pellets to be used exclusively in a rotary tumbler. I understand that you need to break them in prior to use. The only directions that I've found so far have been on the follow websites: www.littleredstore.com/store/rock-tumbling-media/Quote --> "Brand new ceramic shapes have rough edges from the factory--don't use them in a polish stage until you have tumbled them for 2 hours in 80-grit Silicon Carbide powder with normal water. After this break-in period, your polished rocks can't be scratched by the shapes." www.therockshed.com/grit2.htmlQuote --> "They require about a 24 hour break in period before using them for burnishing metals" My questions are: 1) How much time do you guys allow for breaking-in your ceramic media for rocks? 2) Do you have to break-in the media only for the polish stage and or pre-polish stage? 3) Does it make sense to break-in the media for the rough (80 grit) stage? (To me this doesn't make sense) 4) Assuming the break-in requires the use of 80 grit, how much grit would you use per/pound of ceramic media? 5) Do I use the standard amount of water (just below the top layer of pellets) or less for the pellet break-in process? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm still new and I'm trying to learn the essentials before screwing everything up. Thanks again. Sak...
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tkvancil
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Post by tkvancil on Jul 14, 2014 13:16:04 GMT -5
I don't break them in separately. I wash them and use them for filler in rough grind when I need smalls. I usually only let them go one or two weeks with the rocks in rough. If I still need smalls in that particular batch I'll remove the tumbled ceramics and add new again. The ceramics will be nicely rounded on the sharp edges.
I have also added fresh ceramics (washed) to the 220 stage in a vibratory tumbler and then sent them through all stages with my rocks. Washed the whole batch (rocks and ceramics) between stages as normal. Haven't had any issues. Hope this helps.
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sak
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Post by sak on Jul 14, 2014 13:46:58 GMT -5
I usually only let them go one or two weeks with the rocks in rough. If I still need smalls in that particular batch I'll remove the tumbled ceramics and add new again. Hi Ken - Thanks for responding. Based on your comments, I'm a bit confused. Why are you only letting them go for 2 weeks and then removing them and adding new ceramic again? Could it be because they wear down to almost nothing after 2 weeks in 80 grit? Also, in regards to washing, how are you doing that and why? I really appreciate any additional feedback you have. Thanks. Sak...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 14:02:15 GMT -5
Try using aquarium gravel or pea gravel.works awesome for me and way cheaper than ceramics,and they are closer to the specific gravity of stones.( in general)in effect your stones won't swim on the media they swim in it.in the past i have used ceramics and ran them from the course right to the polish,unless your ceramic has grit impregnated in it than you can only use them up to the stage that the impregnated grit is,any further and they will scratch,for that matter your stones wouldn't polish or grind any further. Dave
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tkvancil
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Post by tkvancil on Jul 14, 2014 14:13:55 GMT -5
So yeah ... in coarse grit it is possible to grind ceramic to nothing although it will take longer than two weeks. I remove them and use them for later rotary stages or in my vibe where the grit is less aggressive, that way they last longer. It is simply a matter of economy. I arrived at the two weeks after turning some of my 3/8 by 5/8 cylinders into 1/8 by 1/4 cylinders. If memory serves that took about 8 or 10 weeks. Hope that's clearer.
As for washing ... A thorough rinse is probably a better description. Put them in a bowl or colander and roll them around in running water. Removes any ceramic dust, dirt or possible contaminates that may be there from the manufacturing process. May not be needed but I prefer to err on the side of caution.
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Post by johnjsgems on Jul 14, 2014 14:40:51 GMT -5
Break them in while running grit steps and rinse and move along with load. Ceramics won't embed with grit so run through all stages. Burnish with rocks before and after polish. Gravel works too unless the tumbler motor is tired and the ceramics add less weight. The smaller sizes add more contact points to speed up steps. Saw trimmings work well too. If you start the ceramics with the 220 step thety will last a long time and are pretty convenient.
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