FLrockhound
spending too much on rocks
Member since July 2014
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Post by FLrockhound on Sept 10, 2014 19:01:20 GMT -5
This is a piece I just finished. I saw a couple pictures of this beautiful style wrap created by Tommy and thought I would give it a try. Now that I actually had hands on trying to make it, the next one should be a little more uniform and not as sloppy. Thanks to all the beautiful photos of wraps made by members of this board, I'm determined to learn and make my own rocks even more special! I never thought in a million years I would find so much interest in jewelry making. Not too sure what type of rock this is (if anybody would like to chime in, go for it!) but I love the subtle blue. The wire used is silver plated copper 18G and 20G blue coated copper for the bail. When I get better and not wasting so much wire practicing and learning I'll get the good stuff. As always I'm open to any tips or constructive criticism. Thanks for Looking!
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Post by orrum on Sept 10, 2014 20:15:58 GMT -5
Looks like a great start!
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 11, 2014 7:52:28 GMT -5
This is a piece I just finished. I saw a couple pictures of this style wrap and thought I would give it a try. I hate to be a party pooper, but that design is a Tommy Lay Original. You should have asked him before copying it. Whenever "trying out" someone else's designs, it's a good idea to, not only, get permission but to give credit, too. In legal and ethical terms, it is perfectly acceptable to use techniques freely, but a design is the intellectual property of the owner. As far as I know, Tommy's design is his own unique design- one that he claims. Go to his shop and see. He has a section just for this wrap. He calls it a TLO. I'm not trying to be harsh, but since you are just starting out- and doing a great job, I might add- I thought you might like to know.
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 11, 2014 8:48:07 GMT -5
Nice!
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FLrockhound
spending too much on rocks
Member since July 2014
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Post by FLrockhound on Sept 11, 2014 14:21:38 GMT -5
This is a piece I just finished. I saw a couple pictures of this style wrap and thought I would give it a try. I hate to be a party pooper, but that design is a Tommy Lay Original. You should have asked him before copying it. Whenever "trying out" someone else's designs, it's a good idea to, not only, get permission but to give credit, too. In legal and ethical terms, it is perfectly acceptable to use techniques freely, but a design is the intellectual property of the owner. As far as I know, Tommy's design is his own unique design- one that he claims. Go to his shop and see. He has a section just for this wrap. He calls it a TLO. I'm not trying to be harsh, but since you are just starting out- and doing a great job, I might add- I thought you might like to know. I completely understand, I really didn't give it that much thought. I wasn't trying to pass this as my own design or sell my poor attempt and certainly didn't realize it was a form of plagiarism. The talent here is top notch and I have great respect of the members here. I'll be sure to do research and give credit when an where credit is due. Thank you for pointing that out and explaining some of the courtesies. I'll make sure I use proper posting etiquette in the future. I wouldn't have known it was a big no-no if you hadn't brought it to my attention.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 11, 2014 14:43:28 GMT -5
I'm so glad you took it as offered. I didn't want to come across all b***chy.
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FLrockhound
spending too much on rocks
Member since July 2014
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Post by FLrockhound on Sept 11, 2014 15:23:27 GMT -5
It's a learning process. In my eyes I don't have the right to be offended. If the situation was reversed I would've said the same thing you said and expect some asinine response. I joined this community to be a contributing member and gain experience with all forms of this hobby from tumbling to wire creations. Recently I've been learning a lot of the creative talents I never knew I had from woodworking to pencil sketching and wire creations. The last thing I would want, is to rock the boat where there is so much talent and knowledge I could learn from. I'm trying not to ramble on but I feel I need to express where I'm coming from. A few years ago i felt I had nothing to offer to this world and simply worthless after my diagnosis of MS and being released from the military with PTSD and a full disability retirement. I never know what tomorrow will bring whether it be loss of eyesight or loss of feeling in my extremities(which has happened to me before). Every day I feel like I'm 31 going on 91 years old. I listen to the wise and ignore the wisea$$.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 11, 2014 16:12:58 GMT -5
Thank you for your service! I'm really sorry to hear of your problems. I could go on a rant about my opinion concerning our treatment of returning vets, but I won't. Suffice to say- more could be done. I come from a military family, so I am familiar with a lot of these things. One of my best friends has MS so I have an idea of what you are going through. He was in the Army and got out because of it. The GOOD news is- you found the right place. Lots of people here are retired and/or dealing with physical problems and I can't even count how many wire wrappers I know that have one issue or another. Wrapping is really therapeutic. To really get into the groove you need to kinda lose yourself. That really helps to relieve pain, anxiety, etc. Of course, the same goes for any creative outlet. Good luck to you and welcome aboard.
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FLrockhound
spending too much on rocks
Member since July 2014
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Post by FLrockhound on Sept 14, 2014 19:48:47 GMT -5
This is my newest wrap the idea started as a nautical compass but turned into swirls that looked like rain so i name this creation "Desert Rain" because the rock itself looks like a dark sky over a desert. The blue wire is easier for me to see as practice wire. I'm learning how to manipulate the wire and learn how the wire itself reacts to different techniques. This is only a practice wrap to show my progression for those of you who are interested.
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FLrockhound
spending too much on rocks
Member since July 2014
Posts: 343
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Post by FLrockhound on Sept 14, 2014 20:11:43 GMT -5
Thank you for your service! I'm really sorry to hear of your problems. I could go on a rant about my opinion concerning our treatment of returning vets, but I won't. Suffice to say- more could be done. I come from a military family, so I am familiar with a lot of these things. One of my best friends has MS so I have an idea of what you are going through. He was in the Army and got out because of it. The GOOD news is- you found the right place. Lots of people here are retired and/or dealing with physical problems and I can't even count how many wire wrappers I know that have one issue or another. Wrapping is really therapeutic. To really get into the groove you need to kinda lose yourself. That really helps to relieve pain, anxiety, etc. Of course, the same goes for any creative outlet. Good luck to you and welcome aboard. Thank You, I'm proud to have served. I completely agree and I know all too much about the "wonderful treatment" of vets. The treatment my generation returning from the middle east is 10 times better now than how Vietnam era veterans, which I have the utmost respect for. I have family that served in Vietnam, as does my wife. Wire wrapping is not only mentally therapeutic but also physically. It helps me retrain my left hand which went numb and never recovered after a bad relapse. I cant complain because the whole left side of my body went numb and lost sensation for a few weeks. I could literally draw a line down my face to between my legs. The upside of that was that my feet were also numb and felt like I was walking on super soft pillows. To this day I'm able to walk barefoot where most people wouldn't dare IE crushed shells and blacktop on a hot sunny Florida day.
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 14, 2014 21:27:55 GMT -5
Looks like you got ambitious with that wrap. Looks good. Binding with the round craft wire had to be hard, but you made it look good. One tip you might want to try- when you end and begin your wires, make sure they are to the back. The core is copper ad it will turn green and show.
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