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Post by radio on Sept 17, 2014 8:28:40 GMT -5
I need a small amount of the purple reconstituted Turquoise with purple, blue and bronze kind of like the pic below. I can use rough or a couple of cabs matched for earrings 15-20 mm long and narrow ovals. I have a customer who wants me to make a pair for her, but I have no material Pic stolen from the internet for illustration purposes
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Fossilman
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 17, 2014 8:33:34 GMT -5
Maryann and Ralph probably have some of that material..............
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Post by Pat on Sept 17, 2014 12:27:33 GMT -5
I need some of that, too!
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Post by whatamidoing on Sept 17, 2014 14:16:21 GMT -5
Wow! That stuff is beautiful! I might just need some of that also. J/k
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Don
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Post by Don on Sept 17, 2014 14:23:14 GMT -5
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Post by radio on Sept 17, 2014 15:26:42 GMT -5
Thanks I sent them an e mail. All I seen on their site was beads though
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Post by radio on Sept 17, 2014 17:15:47 GMT -5
Just heard back from Colbaugh. No joy:-( We do not do any reconstituted products, what we do make is turquoise nuggets that we hydraulically press together into a “brick shape”. We do not have the Mohave Purple compressed nugget block with blue spots at this time. It takes a particular type of very hard turquoise rough to create that “look” and we are not mining in the area where that turquoise is, right now. We do have the purple with bronze without the blue spots. Let me know if you would like to see some. The blocks are 5.5”x2.5”x2” and weighs about 2.5lbs. They are $65lb.
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Don
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Post by Don on Sept 17, 2014 17:52:55 GMT -5
Just heard back from Colbaugh. No joy:-( We do not do any reconstituted products, what we do make is turquoise nuggets that we hydraulically press together into a “brick shape”. We do not have the Mohave Purple compressed nugget block with blue spots at this time. It takes a particular type of very hard turquoise rough to create that “look” and we are not mining in the area where that turquoise is, right now. We do have the purple with bronze without the blue spots. Let me know if you would like to see some. The blocks are 5.5”x2.5”x2” and weighs about 2.5lbs. They are $65lb. bummer. www.ebay.com/itm/PURPLE-MOHAVE-TURQUOISE-WITH-BRONZE-ROUGH-KINGMAN-MINE-USA-2LB-2-7OZ-/151233924308?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23363e8cd4Yikes at the price....
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Post by Don on Sept 17, 2014 17:54:42 GMT -5
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Post by phil on Sept 17, 2014 20:00:10 GMT -5
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deserthound
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Post by deserthound on Sept 17, 2014 20:10:08 GMT -5
nice stuff Phil..back then what did a 2# block go for...
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Post by phil on Sept 17, 2014 21:15:57 GMT -5
$180.00 I bought it because the cabs were going for $35 per and up back then. No idea what they sell for today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 22:48:47 GMT -5
what do they use for the purple part?
I think purple turquoise is a mis-nomer. Marketing folks........ sheesh!
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Post by RocknCritter on Sept 18, 2014 9:29:18 GMT -5
"Green" amethyst "White" turquoise "Blue" Morganite
Heck, even Tanzanite is a marketing name for heated brown zoisite and the public soaks it up.
The purple portion of "purple" turquiose is just harder turquoise that won't accept the dye is what I've been told.
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Post by radio on Sept 18, 2014 9:40:41 GMT -5
I have some slabs of the purple/bronze out in the garage, I cut them from a 2 pound block I bought a few years ago from the guy who used to make it for Colbaughs. No blue tho.... He's since passed, and the block wasn't cheap either. How thick do you want? Backed with basenite or unbacked? Looks like this: Thanks Phil. I appreciate the offer, but I need the blue in it to match the pendant and bracelet I already made.
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Post by phil on Sept 18, 2014 14:41:56 GMT -5
"Green" amethyst "White" turquoise "Blue" Morganite Heck, even Tanzanite is a marketing name for heated brown zoisite and the public soaks it up. The purple portion of "purple" turquiose is just harder turquoise that won't accept the dye is what I've been told. The purple portion is the softer turquoise chalk that will take coloring. The blue bits are usually already stabilized blue turquoise that won't change color because it's already stabilized or rarely, harder turquoise that won't accept dying. The gold color is bronze tinted epoxy resin that they use to fill in the larger cracks and etc when they compress it all into a block. Then they let the resin "cure" and finally put the molds in an oven to finish curing and setting the resin. There is NO natural purple colored turquoise anywhere in the world. Nor lime green, orange, florescent yellow, etc etc etc.
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Post by RocknCritter on Sept 18, 2014 15:53:46 GMT -5
"Green" amethyst "White" turquoise "Blue" Morganite Heck, even Tanzanite is a marketing name for heated brown zoisite and the public soaks it up. The purple portion of "purple" turquiose is just harder turquoise that won't accept the dye is what I've been told. The purple portion is the softer turquoise chalk that will take coloring. The blue bits are usually already stabilized blue turquoise that won't change color because it's already stabilized or rarely, harder turquoise that won't accept dying. The gold color is bronze tinted epoxy resin that they use to fill in the larger cracks and etc when they compress it all into a block. Then they let the resin "cure" and finally put the molds in an oven to finish curing and setting the resin. There is NO natural purple colored turquoise anywhere in the world. Nor lime green, orange, florescent yellow, etc etc etc. In complete agreement about the colors of turquoise. Just did't know that some parts of the uncolored part of this product was stabilized prior to dying the remainder. As originally mentioned, "purple" turquoise is only a marketing name.
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Post by radio on Sept 18, 2014 16:49:17 GMT -5
Yes, it is very misleading and most vendors will not tell customers it is dyed. I always tell folks that there never was, nor ever will be any natural Turquoise in those shades. Just about every day I see customers who have been mis informed, or just plain ripped off on either Turquoise and/or Sterling silver. Just yesterday two ladies stopped by my shop and asked me what I thought some jewelry was worth they had just bought at a shop in branson. They were large, gaudy pieces with Abalone shell and were set in nickel silver. I told them $20 to $30 as costume jewelry and they about stepped on their lower jaws their mouth fell open so far! Seems it had been sold to the them as "Silver" and they had assumed it was Sterling Silver. WRONG!!! I don't know if they took it back to the shop or not, but they were not happy campers!
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deserthound
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Post by deserthound on Sept 18, 2014 20:36:57 GMT -5
Purple, Turquoise....... sounds like one of them oxymoron type things..guess thats why it was 90.00 a lbs 20 yrs ago.
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Post by RocknCritter on Sept 18, 2014 21:20:47 GMT -5
The other stone that many dealers misrepresent is the "Seafoam Jasper". It should be obvious that this stuff is dyed and probably reconstituted. There are simply too many different colors and varities available - i.e a red, a blue, a green, a purple, etc. and this should be the first tip off. True red or purple stones (without any masking) might be the least common colors in natural stones. Even when you pick-up a piece of "seafoam whatever" it doesn't have the same weight as a jasper.
The first time I saw the "purple turquoise" was about four or five years ago. I thought it was manufactured more recently than 20 years ago but don't know for sure.
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