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Post by snuffy on Nov 14, 2014 9:10:26 GMT -5
In the years bh,before hogs,I would go to the woods and the leaf mould at about a 3 inch layer would blanket the ground.Shoveled up and taken to my garden.The years ah,after hogs,couldnt even get a good shovel full,rooted up with tree roots and all. Ended that!
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Post by chassroc on Nov 14, 2014 9:12:57 GMT -5
Shameful! Pigs as big as a barn and we still can't kill the pests! Seems like this country is full of HINOs  Charlie |
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Post by jamesp on Nov 14, 2014 9:30:39 GMT -5
In the years bh,before hogs,I would go to the woods and the leaf mould at about a 3 inch layer would blanket the ground.Shoveled up and taken to my garden.The years ah,after hogs,couldnt even get a good shovel full,rooted up with tree roots and all. Ended that! snuffy the wildlife biologists fenced off sections of forest to see what would grow without hogs present snuffy. It was a world of difference in what grew inside the fence, like native plants and tree seedlings. No solutions to the hogs yet. Seems like some form of pack dogs would do. Dogs love to get after them. Their sense of smell. Especially after a rain when they are dripping their scent. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 10:26:48 GMT -5
In California we had a native animal did what pigs do. Rooting and berry picking, snake eating and grub tasting... and.. and... and...
Man killed all those guys and the pigs walked in and filled the niche. I have been in coastal california canyon rich with pigs that still have all the tender understory plants like miner's lettuce. The oak forests are still healthy and reproductive with all age groups present.
Accept to the farmers, feral pigs haven't really done much damage. They simply filled the ecological niche left behind by the now extinct California Grizzly Bear, then the world's largest bear. Yes, even bigger than a Polar Bear at over 2000 pounds!
Sadly I was born some 30 years after the last California Grizzly was seen in the wild, never to have the pleasure of watching one go about it's day.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 14, 2014 16:11:34 GMT -5
In California we had a native animal did what pigs do. Rooting and berry picking, snake eating and grub tasting... and.. and... and... Man killed all those guys and the pigs walked in and filled the niche. I have been in coastal california canyon rich with pigs that still have all the tender understory plants like miner's lettuce. The oak forests are still healthy and reproductive with all age groups present. Accept to the farmers, feral pigs haven't really done much damage. They simply filled the ecological niche left behind by the now extinct California Grizzly Bear, then the world's largest bear. Yes, even bigger than a Polar Bear at over 2000 pounds! Sadly I was born some 30 years after the last California Grizzly was seen in the wild, never to have the pleasure of watching one go about it's day. You guys are fortunate. The Appalachians do not fare so well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 17:11:11 GMT -5
the appalachians have bears AND pigs!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 17:46:52 GMT -5
Austin is ate up w/them.they tore up a neighbors yard at the back of our neighborhood and we are practically in the city.they bar none,and there dangerous.
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Post by Mark K on Nov 14, 2014 20:17:13 GMT -5
Someone shot this this morning. Never trailed it. I followed the blood trail but never found it.  |
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Post by jamesp on Nov 14, 2014 21:01:49 GMT -5
the appalachians have bears AND pigs! The pigs like the roots and tubers in the rich soil. So they plow, like a diesel tractor with a mold board plow. I have seen the gristle on their side stop 44 magnum bullets. They get strong from that type of exercise. Insane animals. |
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Post by jamesp on Nov 14, 2014 21:03:16 GMT -5
Someone shot this this morning. Never trailed it. I followed the blood trail but never found it. when is the rut up there ? |
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Post by Mark K on Nov 14, 2014 21:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Nov 15, 2014 8:14:33 GMT -5
Today is ave peak of rut. We have imported northern deer, so rut similar. |
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Post by Fossilman on Nov 15, 2014 10:41:02 GMT -5
Damn I miss hunting deer.....Tried it two years in a row here in western Oregon,a bust every time!!!
If It would have been in ND,I would have tagged out with three deer a year,no problem!!!
A brother in law and I are going wild hog hunting in eastern Oregon soon..From what I have been told,the little ones taste better than the big boys...
I guess I shouldn't whine about deer hunting,have some nice bucks under my belt...
Probably 1 out of a 100 deer,I had to feed one to the dogs,he was nasty!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 11:24:59 GMT -5
Damn I miss hunting deer.....Tried it two years in a row here in western Oregon,a bust every time!!! If It would have been in ND,I would have tagged out with three deer a year,no problem!!! A brother in law and I are going wild hog hunting in eastern Oregon soon..From what I have been told,the little ones taste better than the big boys... I guess I shouldn't whine about deer hunting,have some nice bucks under my belt... Probably 1 out of a 100 deer,I had to feed one to the dogs,he was nasty!!! Mike, keep me in the loop on that east oregon hog hunting. I'd love to make a trip up for that. Cali pigs: We (unfortunately not me yet) kill the dry sows. The males reek of musk. I was told by an old timer that the way to the boars are great eating if you "wet age" them in ice water for a week. He would clean and quarter a boar, put it in ice chests and fill the chests with ice. Every day for a week he would drain the water and top off the ice. After a week it's pork happiness, so he said. |
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Post by radio on Nov 15, 2014 15:05:14 GMT -5
Vegetarian. Old Indian word for "Lousy hunter" :-) I hunt and kill animals for food and have no use for so called "Sport hunters" who kill for the thrill of it  Matter of fact, I'm in for a quick cup of coffee, a warm up and headed back to the stand very shortly. The rut is in full swing here in Mo, so I'm hoping a nice buck wanders by looking for a girlfriend. Nice buck and congrats on the fresh backstraps Mark |
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Post by Mark K on Nov 15, 2014 17:11:45 GMT -5
I have been told that if you can cage them up and cut their nuts off that with a little time they will stop smelling bad and be good for food.
I was going to go out again this morning and try to find that buck that someone lost. It snowed so I will have to wait until the yotes and crows show me where it is.
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Post by radio on Nov 15, 2014 19:08:28 GMT -5
Someone shot this this morning. Never trailed it. I followed the blood trail but never found it. Lots of idiot hunters shoot at a deer, and if it doesn't drop, they say "Aw, Crap! I missed!" and never go check for sign of a hit. That happens here also, and mostly from folks who live in the big cities and hunt once a year |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 23:12:26 GMT -5
That happens here also, and mostly from folks who live in the big cities and hunt once a year Out here the "once a year" hunters(?) all hunt dove. Deer? That is expensive! Never hunt dove if September 1 falls on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. That is unless you have a way to avoid the crowds. |
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Matter of fact, I'm in for a quick cup of coffee, a warm up and headed back to the stand very shortly. The rut is in full swing here in Mo, so I'm hoping a nice buck wanders by looking for a girlfriend.
