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Post by broseph82 on Dec 15, 2014 16:40:03 GMT -5
Who knows of a reputable name for hole saw bits for rocks? I can find them online, but I don't want to just use one once and have to replace it.
Thanks
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Dec 15, 2014 17:02:06 GMT -5
what size holes and how many holes do you plan on making? you can get simple fairly cheap diamond plated ones that will cut 3 holes in 1/4" agate slabs or you can as fancy as a special attachment that mounts to your drill press and puts clean water right into the hole with sintered hole saw bits.
Chuck
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Post by broseph82 on Dec 15, 2014 17:50:31 GMT -5
what size holes and how many holes do you plan on making? you can get simple fairly cheap diamond plated ones that will cut 3 holes in 1/4" agate slabs or you can as fancy as a special attachment that mounts to your drill press and puts clean water right into the hole with sintered hole saw bits. Chuck I'll need some from about a 1/4 inch to 1.5" If I can get a set that will be best. Well I'd like to be able to get as many holes as I can out of a bit for the best amount possible. I'll be using the cores not necessarily the holes. Also my slabs will be about 5/8" thick. |
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 15, 2014 17:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Dec 15, 2014 18:12:47 GMT -5
When I did a project that required (22) 1" o.d. cabs for kitchen cabinet hardware I looked into the water swivel and fancy core bit but its was about $225 for those two pieces. they claim 2000 holes on there website but I am sure thats with the water swivel too www.ukam.com/webcatalog_drills_ordering.htmthe water swivels say they increase bit life by 75% www.ukam.com/water_swivel_adopters.htmlAll of those are to rich for my blood but its fun to dream Chuck |
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Post by broseph82 on Dec 15, 2014 18:23:28 GMT -5
deb193redux- I order from Jadecarver on eBay when I need wheels. what go and sized drill machine should I get? Will a 10" from HomeDepot work?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 18:51:56 GMT -5
A ten inch will work very well. I have two of them that I use for everything.
I have bought from all over but if you are drilling 7 hard like agate and jasper buy the expensive ones. If you are drilling jadeite and nephrite the cheap ones work quite well. And the thin wall drill so much faster I would never buy another thick wall. I have a $50 thick wall 13/16ths bit that worked pretty good for a while but it is so slow I will never use it again except in an emergency which I do not have many of.
I have probably bought more from UKAM than any other place. If you need the location of a place that has every size in 1/16ths increments let me know and I will look it up. May take me a while because I can not remember which place it is. May even be UKAM. Most places only have 1/8ths increments in the smaller sizes and 1/4" increments in the larger sizes.
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Post by broseph82 on Dec 15, 2014 19:08:16 GMT -5
A ten inch will work very well. I have two of them that I use for everything. I have bought from all over but if you are drilling 7 hard like agate and jasper buy the expensive ones. If you are drilling jadeite and nephrite the cheap ones work quite well. And the thin wall drill so much faster I would never buy another thick wall. I have a $50 thick wall 13/16ths bit that worked pretty good for a while but it is so slow I will never use it again except in an emergency which I do not have many of. I have probably bought more from UKAM than any other place. If you need the location of a place that has every size in 1/16ths increments let me know and I will look it up. May take me a while because I can not remember which place it is. May even be UKAM. Most places only have 1/8ths increments in the smaller sizes and 1/4" increments in the larger sizes. Jim Yes, I will be mostly using harder rocks like 6.5-7.5. Im not sure what is thin wall and what is thick. Im still learning. Point me to some recommendations. I would appreciate it. Remember ill be drilling through slabs 1/2" - 5/8" thick. |
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 15, 2014 19:11:01 GMT -5
some HF drill press have belts slip or not enough HP. I think Home Depot or Sears would be OK.
One where there are step gears to allow you to change speed to find RPM that seems to work best for you. how much pressure you tend to use, how much water is flushing, and how often you back off the bit can all have an effect.
I think you need to get some hands on, work out methods that work well for you. Then increase your investment in bits.
Also always put the slab on some other junk slab to prevent spalling
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 19:22:52 GMT -5
UKAM www.ukam.com/core_drills.htm is the one that has the most sizes plus if you look over their whole site they teach you everything you need to know. Speeds and pressure are all listed and you can get the water swivels that were mentioned above and how to use them. If you are drilling that thick I would recommend that type of water system. It will pay for itself pretty fast in drill life. If you have a water supply problem I bought a three gallon garden sprayer and hooked it up with a needle valve to control the flow. I am not using a water swivel so I am not sure how much water is required to keep it flushed out but i am pretty sure they tell you there somewhere. Good luck and ask away if you have questions. Messaging me is the more positive way to contact me because I may miss it here. Jim |
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 4, 2015 23:17:03 GMT -5
Just ordered a "set" of the thin wall core bits and a water swivel from Kingsley. Thanks for your comments guys!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 8:11:12 GMT -5
I just checked Kingsley and they have a very good selection. I will probably try theirs next.
Let us know how it goes please.
Jim
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 8, 2015 13:48:23 GMT -5
Can someone post a video on how to hook up the water swivel? The hose connector end spins with the bit and I know that cannot be right.
@wampidy
Edit: I have it hooked up right but how do I keep the water valve from spinning? I can hold it and just the bit spins but as soon as I let it go the water valve spins freely
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 18:27:40 GMT -5
Can you clamp a dowel or something to it that is long enough to hit the drill press post? It should still be able to work up and down. If not that a small chain maybe? I have never owned one because jade drills so much easier than agate.
Jim
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 8, 2015 19:05:04 GMT -5
Can you clamp a dowel or something to it that is long enough to hit the drill press post? It should still be able to work up and down. If not that a small chain maybe? I have never owned one because jade drills so much easier than agate. Jim Great idea thanks |
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Post by unclesoska on Jan 8, 2015 21:40:21 GMT -5
If it's the garden hose connector, once you hook up the hose, that will restrict the movement of the swivel. Try not to let the garden hose "droop" at the connection, as I found out, it will separate where the press fit goes in. Does that make any sense? Mine isn't set up in the winter, so sorry no pic.
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Post by jerrys on Jan 12, 2015 15:25:10 GMT -5
Connect the water line and the water valve will not spin. Maybe I'm missing something with your question.
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 12, 2015 19:23:37 GMT -5
Connect the water line and the water valve will not spin. Maybe I'm missing something with your question. My water line and valve connected to the drill press does spin. Spins freely with the chuck. I have to hold it steady while using it. |
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 13, 2015 13:47:31 GMT -5
So my rig on my water swivel has a male hose adapter screwed into a female hose adapter and I have a 1/4" hose going to an aquarium pump thats in a bucket of water. The pump came with a hose clip to attach to something.... So without the hose on the swivel, it will freely spin with the chuck. The hose keeps somewhat in place but when I go to use the drill it will pick up resistance and will spin like crazy and wrap the 1/4" tubing around the bit. Why does Kingsley sell the aquarium pump hookup with this if it doesnt keep it from spinning? Or am I doing something wrong? I feel like I shouldnt have to hold the damn pump line with one hand while trying to use the machine with my right. Is the hose im using just not heavy enough to keep in from spinning? Should I call Kingsley? Ive tried to look up my answer online to no avail. Can someone point me in the right direction or tell me whats going on please? thanks jimi unclesoska jerrys |
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Post by deb193redux on Jan 13, 2015 14:37:34 GMT -5
Kingsley sells it with small pump because BD ships a kit with a small pump. I think you are going to have to figure out how to immobilize. If you call anyone, I would call BD because they make it.
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