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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Apr 25, 2015 11:13:25 GMT -5
I am posting these photo's for orrum. to show his hillbilly wire twisting. I'll let him describe the method used. These are not my pieces they are his (or drocknut may have made them at his class in quartzite) I just uploaded the photos for him. Chuck Admin edit - repaired photos Saved code: http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/drummondislandrocks/
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Post by orrum on Apr 25, 2015 11:48:28 GMT -5
Wow Chuck 5hanks for posting those!!! I feel so honore, I now have a thread with PICTURES!!!! LOL.
These are my girlfriend Susans first and only 3 wraps. She is my foreman in the silver smith classroom. She will do more but she prefers silver wire and no marks so she is looking for a Eastwick hatchet and ballpeen hammer. She did these by herself from just watching me teach the classes. I did not show her give her individual instruction. This stuff is very easy to learn! I do several other styles of wrap. These are larger cabs, for smaller cabs you need a different style wrap.
This is called Cold Forge Wire Wrapping. It originated with a homeless man who teamed the desert southwest and hung out at rock shows, festivals, celebrations, whatever. He carried some 14 gauge copper and sterling silver wire, a hatchet, pliers, a bail pliers, file, sanding sponge and a wore out ballpeen hammer and a few stones. Plus he would scrounge up a piece of firewood.
He would stick the hatchet into the firewood or preferably a small sawed off stump. This was his anvil. He sit and peck away on his hatchet and create these wraps. Mostly he wanted to wrsp other people's stones or cabochons for a fee.
There are many more wrap types plus cold forged necklace to hang the pendants on.
He taught a fellow named Dennis to do some of his wraps. Dennis spent 4 years perfecting the wraps.
I met Dennis at a demonstration and he offered to show me how to do it in front of a 200 person crowd. Who am I to turn that down!
Needless to say I did good! LOL. I sorta had an advantage. You see I been fooling with horses all my life. Done a lot of wire twisting fixing fences! Also she my own horses. You cold forge a store bought horse shoe with a anvil to fit each hoof! LOL. It's the same principle. When you hammer wire or horseshoes the metal moves and flows a certain way.
So I ended up teaching it at the Gem Club in Quartzsite. Got sorta famous and ended up with people bringing me other wraps done by the old fellow to reproduce. Also the flint knappers found me to wrap their arrow head points.
So there you go,my method is rustic versus Dennis. Dennis is very perfect with no tool marks etc. I put them in on purpose and folks love it! It's rustic because I use a five dollar hatchet and hammer from Harbor Freight! Can't afford 75 dollar hatchet from Eastwick and another 75 for s hammer. My students don't want to invest in that much either to just start. So my hatchet and hammer have a texture facet quality to the wire. I do sand the faces to remove oxidation before hammering.
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Post by orrum on Apr 25, 2015 11:51:32 GMT -5
Oops fotgot.... I call it Hillbilly Wire Twisting because I like it rustic, I even put tool marks in on purpose sometimes to give it texture and highlight.
I am a hillbilly from the Appalachian Mountains and if this ain't wire twisting then cut off my feet and call me shorty!## LOL
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Post by captbob on Apr 25, 2015 11:54:11 GMT -5
I like 'em! Other than a gold band, I'm not one to wear jewelery, but those are very masculine.
Any wire wrapping that doesn't look like a dog chewed on it gets bonus points - these get those points.
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 25, 2015 13:13:08 GMT -5
Oh ya'! I like em'!!!!!!!
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 25, 2015 13:29:06 GMT -5
Hot damn, Orrum!!! I didn't know you could wire wrap! What a freakin' treat! I know this wrap. Dennis calls it the silk wrap. I have seen the videos. I have to say, I like the Hillbilly wrap better. And I LOVE, love, love your story. So cool!!!! I'm really happy to know your story, Thanks! Keep on wrapping! Anytime you want to post, and Chuck is busy, just let me know- I have a domain to post on and I'd be happy to post emailed pictures for you--- esp if they are more wire wraps.
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Post by orrum on Apr 25, 2015 14:34:42 GMT -5
Hey Capnbob thanks for the good words!
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Post by pghram on Apr 25, 2015 23:06:20 GMT -5
Nice style, I agree, very manly.
Rich
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Post by orrum on Apr 26, 2015 6:20:07 GMT -5
You know it's manly but the women go ga ga over theses too.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 26, 2015 9:02:20 GMT -5
You know it's manly but the women go ga ga over theses too. Bill, have thought about wrapping some really hard unfractured coral tumbles with very annealed copper that was pre hammered flat. Once wrap is rough formed and reannealled reinstall it around the coral The tough coral cannot withstand the heat, but can handle careful hammering on annealed copper to a degree after final wrap. Final hammering effectively hardening the copper on the stone. Some alloys of copper are super soft. But harden readily with hammer taps. And using a tumble that is not feathered to thin on the edges that may take the abuse of the hammering. Thinking that may have an interesting effect. Sort of like hammer forming a ring over a mandrel, but the tumble is the final recipient. Probably not a good idea to hammer form copper around someone's finger May practice this stunt with medium gauge solder wire to see if it can be done with super soft metal before attempting copper... Does this idea make any sense ? I worry that the more the metal is hammered the longer it will get, and so the looser. Maybe hammering from one end and working down the wrap. Anyway, I get into hammering. Kinda OCD about it. Thinking along the lines of using a very hard rock to hammer form metal on for it's final encapsulation. Maybe soft sheet copper as a hammer formed 'bezel'. sorry to go off subject, but your heavy gauge wraps are very desirable in some markets around Atlanta. We have some interesting Goth and bondage folks around here LOL.
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Post by orrum on Apr 26, 2015 9:34:22 GMT -5
Love your ideas James, think outside the box is your style.
I bring my stuff when I visit and teach you to cold forge wire wraps.
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Post by drocknut on Apr 26, 2015 10:37:52 GMT -5
I'm late on this but wanted to chime in here. I did take one of Bill's classes on the hillbilly wrap so have done a few but didn't post any of mine on here yet. It is fun to do especially the hammering. It takes some skill to get the right angle and force to hammer the wire into submission. His classes at the club were definitely popular. I can say those arrowhead wraps were really cool looking. Wish I could have gotten a picture but alas I didn't think of it. Susan did a great job on the wraps even when she was working with Bill's tools.
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Post by mohs on Apr 26, 2015 10:53:25 GMT -5
wired twist rock & hammer'n
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Post by jamesp on Apr 26, 2015 12:57:49 GMT -5
Love your ideas James, think outside the box is your style. I bring my stuff when I visit and teach you to cold forge wire wraps. Put it on me. I want to learn different. Your wrap is intriguing.
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Post by orrum on Sept 1, 2017 9:15:20 GMT -5
Hey Tommy can you fix these pics? Please purty please? I will bribe if neccesary....
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Post by Pat on Sept 1, 2017 9:21:00 GMT -5
Tommy, could you fix the photos? Thanks.
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Post by Tommy on Sept 1, 2017 10:26:36 GMT -5
Hey Tommy can you fix these pics? Please purty please? I will bribe if neccesary.... Tommy, could you fix the photos? Thanks. Dun and dun.
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Post by coloradocliff on Sept 1, 2017 11:46:05 GMT -5
Oops fotgot.... I call it Hillbilly Wire Twisting because I like it rustic, I even put tool marks in on purpose sometimes to give it texture and highlight. I am a hillbilly from the Appalachian Mountains and if this ain't wire twisting then cut off my feet and call me shorty!## LOL Well Bill, The Western Hillbillies like that rustic look too. I really like this a lot. You married over your head. Great lady How's the back coming along? Wisconsin people like wigglinrocks love that look too. great look Bill.. Thanks for putting that up Chuck !
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Post by coloradocliff on Sept 1, 2017 11:47:26 GMT -5
Oh ya'! I like em'!!!!!!! That wrap would go great with the caveman cabs from the ammonite shell.(ammolite for Tela)
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Post by zarguy on Sept 1, 2017 12:09:56 GMT -5
wired twist rock & hammer'n Wait, ed is now @.? I can't get it to show up correctly. The times, they are a changin' Lynn
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