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Post by bhiatt on May 14, 2015 18:20:46 GMT -5
this is what the guy says... Here is a good sized un-cut full round specimen of an old Hampton Butte fortified Limbcast showing a real unusual and rare feature: a juvenile limb growing through the tree was preserved and it too is a fortified Limbcast!!! It is 8.6 Pounds and it has a 6" face for display Id like to hear opinions. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say the smaller limb was embedded into the bigger part, and not growing through it like the guy says.
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Post by woodman on May 14, 2015 18:48:27 GMT -5
Didn't see this post before I commented on the other one.
In limb casts this would be quite possible, in my mind. the big one starts out as a hollow that was penetrated by the smaller one before it filled with agate. It is a nice specimen. You see a lot of different things from Hampton Butte.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 19:04:20 GMT -5
Looks to me like the tree fell and the limb was jammed into it. A limb that is growing out of a tree looks a lot different than that. Doesn't look like those two pieces belong together. But I have been wrong before. Jim
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Post by Fossilman on May 14, 2015 19:38:04 GMT -5
I also say a piece of limb fell onto another and they petrified together-either way,its pretty cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bhiatt on May 14, 2015 22:52:29 GMT -5
It is a pretty cool piece. I like the interesting uncut ones over the pretty polished specimens. A friend of mine has this.
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Post by woodman on May 14, 2015 23:10:14 GMT -5
One must remember that in a limb cast there usually is little to no wood material left.The wood rots away leaving a cavity or cast that later fills with agate. If you look close at the right side you can see where the agate formed within that area. I believe the smaller piece penetrated the cavity after the main limb rotted and then it all filled with agate. If the small one had grown thro the larger one, I would think it would have went all the way thru, not just part way. It is the mystery in all of this that keeps it interesting for me. I keep wanting to find a petrified squirrel in a tree! At any rate, thanks for sharing!
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Post by quartz on May 14, 2015 23:47:14 GMT -5
We agree with woodman, haven't found anything like that at Hampton Butte area, but have several pressed together pieces from Saddle Mountain, Wash.
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Post by bhiatt on May 15, 2015 8:55:15 GMT -5
I just don't think it is possible that the limb grew through the bigger piece, especially following the grain of the wood. This little limb looks to be directly in the center of the log.
I agree that the bigger piece may of been hollow and the agate filled all around the smaller limb but no way did it grow through the dead center of the heart while it was still alive.
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Post by woodman on May 15, 2015 8:55:28 GMT -5
This wood in what I believe is Jasper, not really sure. Don't have a clue how this one formed but it is still a neat specimen!
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Post by bhiatt on May 15, 2015 8:56:07 GMT -5
the Hampton specimen is very interesting piece and grew topic starter
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Post by bhiatt on May 15, 2015 8:58:19 GMT -5
woodman, that is a cool piece.
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Post by gingerkid on May 15, 2015 9:48:30 GMT -5
In limb casts this would be quite possible, in my mind. the big one starts out as a hollow that was penetrated by the smaller one before it filled with agate. I agree with woodman's theory. Don't petrified molds and other casts form in a similar way? I keep wanting to find a petrified squirrel in a tree! bhiatt, I have a piece of Wascoite jasper (common opal, agate, jasper) rough that has what is either a limb or fossil in it. Will have to take a pic of it and post it.
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Post by Toad on May 15, 2015 10:21:44 GMT -5
No theory here, but awsome specimen.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 13:12:50 GMT -5
The center/heartwood does not always decay at the same rate as the outer/sapwood. One does occasionally find pieces where the center and hard knots did not decay away completely, and instead mineralized/petrified—the petrified wood core retains preserved grain and different color due to the heartwood having more mineral content, and the outer is just an agate cast of the limb exterior. Sometimes the petrified cores are very fragmented and/or show extensive evidence of rots (very interesting), and sometimes there is a transition zone between cast and petrified heartwood. Limb and tree casts form in different orientations (standing, fallen and lying horizontally, root casts, etc.), so there are multiple possible explanations. If the piece was standing vertically, it is unlikely that anything fell down into, or grew through, the center with agate already forming around it. Anything is possible, however, and if it were lying horizontal, then a cast might potentially collapse and another branch fall into a partially filled void. The latter would be rare, especially if it were to land in the center of a cast and oriented the same direction, and you'd have some indication/interruption in any banding or other pattern in the agate that indicates a break in the filling (i.e., the agate banding wouldn't likely be continuous or even all around the intruding stick). In the case of an intrusion, the agate would form around the intruding limb differently than in the case of a heartwood core being preserved in situ in the center of a branch or log. Would be nice to see more segments of the limb in that case. To my eyes, the OP looks like petrified heartwood at the core of a cast. No theory here, but awsome specimen. Gotta agree with that
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