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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 11:38:50 GMT -5
9 days ago, divisions removed and transferred to two flats: New roots and leaves after 9 days: Transfer to 7 flats, 105 four inch pots. Add fertilizer Add screed, add clay soil, one dump w/backhoe Smooth soil out Wet flats and elevate to shallower water on jacks Wash seedlings out of rooting flats Sprig 4 inch pots w/seedlings Cover with 2 inches of water and sell next year
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Post by orrum on May 17, 2015 11:51:22 GMT -5
It's a system.
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 11:58:39 GMT -5
Precise and synchronized
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Post by radio on May 17, 2015 13:23:00 GMT -5
very organized and efficient operation! those 'lil suckers grow like weeds!
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 14:05:39 GMT -5
very organized and efficient operation! those 'lil suckers grow like weeds! radio, the biggest challenge is to plant them timely and often in a small pot to confine them for a larger pot so they do not get pot bound. That polymer coated fertilizer time releases over full one year period even under water. It is miracle fertilizer, trade name is Florikan. Known as Dynamite at Home Depot(6 month version). When the temp drops below 72F it turns off like a valve. So it may release April-Sept of this year, and start back and finish April-Sept the next dang year till it finishes it's 12 month life. End result is 2 years. Invented in Japan for rice crops. Now a Cadillac fertilizer in the states for about all crops. Nurtricote is the same does the same thing. it releases so slow that you can grow some types of plants in a pot filled with it and no soil w/out cooking the plant. So it is low temp plastic coated. USA sends the fertilizer to be coated, Nippon coats it and ships it back. Go figure.
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Post by radio on May 17, 2015 14:36:18 GMT -5
very organized and efficient operation! those 'lil suckers grow like weeds! radio, the biggest challenge is to plant them timely and often in a small pot to confine them for a larger pot so they do not get pot bound. That polymer coated fertilizer time releases over full one year period even under water. It is miracle fertilizer, trade name is Florikan. Known as Dynamite at Home Depot(6 month version). When the temp drops below 72F it turns off like a valve. So it may release April-Sept of this year, and start back and finish April-Sept the next dang year till it finishes it's 12 month life. End result is 2 years. Invented in Japan for rice crops. Now a Cadillac fertilizer in the states for about all crops. Nurtricote is the same does the same thing. it releases so slow that you can grow some types of plants in a pot filled with it and no soil w/out cooking the plant. So it is low temp plastic coated. USA sends the fertilizer to be coated, Nippon coats it and ships it back. Go figure. I use Osmocote for our houseplants, but haven't been impressed with it. I need to look into the Dynamite at home depot. thanks for the info crazy that we would double ship the stuff!
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 14:43:21 GMT -5
Osmocote is great fertilizer. Not for water, it breaks down and dissolves in two weeks in water when it claims 9 month release. Being underwater is an odd demand though. It releases at a cooler 68F I believe. May be fine for colder areas. Florikan big on micro-nutrients, can freak you out how healthy plants can look when supplied with micros.
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 15:13:15 GMT -5
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Post by snuffy on May 17, 2015 16:00:01 GMT -5
James,do you have bee hives near? Need to get in the honey business!My cousin put several hives near me. A few years ago,no bees ,no squash to speak of.But now,bees a buzzin'!
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 16:48:47 GMT -5
James,do you have bee hives near? Need to get in the honey business!My cousin put several hives near me. A few years ago,no bees ,no squash to speak of.But now,bees a buzzin'! snuffy My friend wants to put some down here to see what water lily bloom honey tastes like. The farmers around me sure have hives. Good move snuffy.
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Post by quartz on May 17, 2015 23:28:22 GMT -5
Do your water plants like acid or alkaline soil better? Any disease problems with the products. The honey sounds quite interesting, very different origin than the norm.
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2015 5:48:07 GMT -5
Do your water plants like acid or alkaline soil better? Any disease problems with the products. The honey sounds quite interesting, very different origin than the norm. Must be a thousand lakes in the Ocala National forest. They have a book listing the water specs for about 50 of the bigger lakes. They range from 4.2 !! acid to 7.5 slightly alkaline. The better fishing lakes are 5.5-7. most of the small lakes are very acidic below 5. They all have fine aquatic plants in them, but the 4-5 acid lakes have much less diversity of aquatic plants, add some freak acid lovers. The wells and springs are mostly alkaline at 8. So the lakes with lots of spring fed water are the higher healthier 6-7 PH. The acid comes from peat soils. So you commonly have 4.2 soil with 8 water with lots of ground nutrients in the water. Mix the two and you get a very balanced but mild nutrient bomb that the aquatic plants can easily digest. All the water and soil(clay) in my nursery is 6.7 so I can grow a wide range of aquatics. But super acid lovers have to be planted in peat, like carnivorous plants. That means I have to buy the peat, so I stay away from most super acid plants. After long periods of drought or light rains, the acid from decomposition builds up in the jungle. Then, if a heavy rain purges the acids from the jungle the natural acid runoff flows into even the biggest lakes(L. George 50,000 acres). The result is dying catfish from the acid bomb. It physically burns their skin and kills many of them. in the case of L. George, a commercial crab and catfish lake it is bad for the fisherman. The crabs and the shrimp that migrate up the river from the ocean, migrate back toward the ocean seeking less acid water. Dry years are best for catfish and crab harvests. Wet years raise acidity. When a large catfish kill occurs, gators and birds of prey come from all around to feed on the carrion. The lakes get a bit toxic from dying flesh. But the plants seem unaffected by the sharp ph changes. Alkaline conditions have a much more limited aquatic plant variety. Tells me they love acid. You could find water bodies near you that have alkaline water. If you do not see many aquatic plants in them it is likely they are not happy in those conditions. And it is a fact that they are happier in neutral to acid conditions. example, clients have put marble gravel in their garden ponds and killed their plants-alkaline bomb. At least for southern type aquatics. Most swamps are acidic, catchments for highly organic/acidic soils. the reason for why aquatics are acid lovers. My clay soil is perfect growing media, it's heavy and full of rare quantities of micro-nutrients. But needs N-P-K added. Heavy good for not floating, but hell on workers that have to carry the pots. One gallon pot weighs 12-15 pounds wet.
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Post by orrum on May 21, 2015 16:23:02 GMT -5
Hey James the problem with the slow release coated fertilizers is that oftentimes a rapid release startup fertilizer is need til the plant gets out enough root system to get to the fertilizer, specially in soil. Also the coated takes a little while to establish a nutrient flow amount that is adequate. Hey bud 10 years as a manager and district manager for a fortune 500 agriculture supply corporation. I wanna see your operation James. Tryin to get down there pardner!
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Post by jamesp on May 21, 2015 21:35:11 GMT -5
Hey James the problem with the slow release coated fertilizers is that oftentimes a rapid release startup fertilizer is need til the plant gets out enough root system to get to the fertilizer, specially in soil. Also the coated takes a little while to establish a nutrient flow amount that is adequate. Hey bud 10 years as a manager and district manager for a fortune 500 agriculture supply corporation. I wanna see your operation James. Tryin to get down there pardner! Yes, your mention is a problem. Plants planted this year for next year, so not so much of an issue. But some heavy feeders need the fertilizer fast, they are a problem. Mix 1 month with the 12 month, solved that one. But another hassle. I thought you were an emperor of a tiny country in the orient. What was I thinking.
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Post by orrum on May 21, 2015 21:39:54 GMT -5
LOL James u r a riot and a mad genius inventor!!!
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2015 0:46:56 GMT -5
LOL James u r a riot and a mad genius inventor!!! Mad yes, genius uhhh
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Post by jamesp on May 22, 2015 8:26:04 GMT -5
orrum, a Mom and Pop is a Fortune 5 billion
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Post by orrum on May 22, 2015 15:43:49 GMT -5
LOL
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