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Post by snowmom on May 23, 2015 12:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on May 23, 2015 13:39:17 GMT -5
The amount of effort to accomplish this is art is telling of early humans psychology I would imagine I recall first encountering these cave art through Joseph Campbell  this was an representative image drawn by French Catholic Priest Henri Breuil in the the 1920 The image is controversial in that Breuil might have exaggerated the image to confirm his shamanist theory |
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Post by Fossilman on May 23, 2015 14:50:31 GMT -5
Yuppers.............Awesome how they could get that great...I bet they had a lot of time on their hands too.....
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Post by quartz on May 23, 2015 22:58:39 GMT -5
Thanks for putting that up, interesting piece of history done by some talented artists.
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Post by mohs on May 24, 2015 12:57:03 GMT -5
Perhaps the artist (or artists)
chose the deep bowels of the earth
for their representation
to achieve some sort of permanence?
All about them in their daily existence was impermanence.
Even their directional markings on the outside world tended to fade away.
Perhaps only in the deep quiet of mother earth would their representations achieve some immortality?
Perhaps they even thought of the womb? Maybe a new birth would arise?
Imagine the generations offspring’s, through whispers of oral traditions, visiting the caves?
The awe must have taken on hallow space! A sanctuary of being before them.
Perhaps the rhinoceros no longer even existed.
What a force! A mystery!
Does art precede religion?
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Post by stephan on May 24, 2015 19:21:46 GMT -5
Way cool!
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Post by Joe on May 24, 2015 19:48:57 GMT -5
Pretty dang cool artwork! Thanks for sharing  |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 9:23:01 GMT -5
France had Rhinos 32,000 years ago?
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Post by snowmom on May 26, 2015 10:34:56 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on May 26, 2015 19:59:04 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that Deb! It really bewilders my mind to think humans have been trudging across the earth for tens of thousands of years ! When you witness some of the locals variety of humans its like we only been on earth for a couple decades haven’t learnt a damn thing  But Scott raises a good question I haven’t found definitive proof of rhinoceros in France (or Europe for that matter) But one assumes from the cave drawers depiction that they must have existed and been local. But that is assumption. mostly |
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Post by snowmom on May 27, 2015 5:36:10 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that Deb! It really bewilders my mind to think humans have been trudging across the earth for tens of thousands of years ! When you witness some of the locals variety of humans its like we only been on earth for a couple decades haven’t learnt a damn thing But Scott raises a good question I haven’t found definitive proof of rhinoceros in France (or Europe for that matter) But one assumes from the cave drawers depiction that they must have existed and been local. But that is assumption. mostly www.naturalsciences.be/ap/IJadin/Publications/Magrite/Magrite.pdf/Magrite.pdf butchered remains of wooly rhinos found for this period in Belgium. close enough? |
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Post by snowmom on May 27, 2015 5:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by mohs on May 27, 2015 9:05:04 GMT -5
Thanks Deb !
Apparently its a well known fact.
Makes sense when one thinks of the ice age.
Here in southwest they have found bones of giant sloths
Its really a trip that the artist and the species are both extinct...
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Post by kk on May 27, 2015 11:15:58 GMT -5
Have not read the links, but can imagine that the Mediterranean sea at one point was an inland-lake.
So Africa would have been joined by a landmass with Europa until fairly recently.
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Post by gemfeller on May 27, 2015 14:33:07 GMT -5
Have not read the links, but can imagine that the Mediterranean sea at one point was an inland-lake. So Africa would have been joined by a landmass with Europa until fairly recently. The African Plate is smacking into the European Plate with awesome force. The Matterhorn is actually about half African and half European. At several times in the geologic past the Strait of Gibralter has been a land bridge with Africa, closing the flow of ocean water and reducing the Med to a puddle and sometimes leaving it completely dry. Large mammals we now associate only with Africa were common in Europe, including England which was joined to present-day France until the "big melt" after the last Ice Age which raised ocean levels between 200 and 300 feet around the world. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-29819156 |
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