jamesp
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Post by jamesp on May 31, 2015 6:53:13 GMT -5
Took a few pics yesterday. Poor kap could not make it down, guessing this freak drought will cover his coral up by next weekend. This is the wet season Keith, river is always high in June. Y'all tease Keith, tell him James predicts rising river levels. It will get his goat LOL. Keith's river is ankle deep, perfect, from interstate bridge: During the wet season the Alapaha river is gorged with water. During dry season it flows underground for 15 miles. Pops out of ground downstream. Right know it is a road bed, about 20 miles south of the above river Swift Creek ripping thru limestone walls. 6 feet wide and 5 feet deep, no way stand in this section. Razor sharp limestone walls. Small spring boil popped up on the bank of the Suwannee River. Notice darkness of tannic acid stained water vs spring water Little potash dredge at White Springs FL. Potash mine is about 20 miles around. Seems they let you drive around in it. Supposed to be a coral/mammoth/fossil gold mine. Have had no luck there. Yesterday morning a couple miles from the house. This is the road they are filming speed scenes constantly.
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Post by orrum on May 31, 2015 8:20:56 GMT -5
Cool pics James. I like the clear spring in the black water. I live 2 miles from the Lumber river. One of the last scenic black water rivers left in NC with unspoiled miles and miles of nature, no houses or "man"!
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Post by Fossilman on May 31, 2015 9:24:47 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing James.............Awesome area!!
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Post by iant on May 31, 2015 12:15:34 GMT -5
G reat pics, thanks Jim! I love to see different places! Need to find more time to have my own adventures this year!
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Post by bhiatt on May 31, 2015 14:31:58 GMT -5
Sweet photos. Those big ol scoopers are pretty impressive to say the least.
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Post by rockpickerforever on May 31, 2015 14:36:02 GMT -5
Took a few pics yesterday. Poor kap could not make it down, guessing this freak drought will cover his coral up by next weekend. This is the wet season Keith, river is always high in June. Y'all tease Keith, tell him James predicts rising river levels. It will get his goat LOL. kap, didn't y'all know this it the wet season down there? Shoulda listened to jamesp, he wouldn't never steer ya wrong!
Probably a waste of breathe telling you so, but you shoulda got there sooner. It'll all be under by next weekend. Well, good luck anyways.... Bring some dive gear and ropes to keep you from floaten' off!
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Post by jamesp on May 31, 2015 17:32:31 GMT -5
Took a few pics yesterday. Poor kap could not make it down, guessing this freak drought will cover his coral up by next weekend. This is the wet season Keith, river is always high in June. Y'all tease Keith, tell him James predicts rising river levels. It will get his goat LOL. kap, didn't y'all know this it the wet season down there? Shoulda listened to jamesp, he wouldn't never steer ya wrong!
Probably a waste of breathe telling you so, but you shoulda got there sooner. It'll all be under by next weekend. Well, good luck anyways.... Bring some dive gear and ropes to keep you from floaten' off!
Tell it Jean. he will have a fit if it goes high, cause it will stay high likely thru August. Rut row.
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Post by jamesp on May 31, 2015 18:40:55 GMT -5
Hate to do this to ya kap. Some heads from private property near White springs on day #2. They should react well to heat. Will try a small one first. Little turtle back scraper(bad photo) Saw palmettos The reason they call them saw palmettos, but wasp's nests under the fans much more of a concern Trying to balance in the waist deep flowing water and almost grabbed this rascal, common water snake Like close, and at face level about a foot away when I noticed him. Not wanting to get in the cold water he is trying to hold his ground. Was just reaching for that root in front of him to use as a handle. scared the out of me. Notice how much this creek falls, left is entering ox-bow, right is exiting. Distance around knob is only about 150 yards. Started coral hunting on the left and the creek returned me back to start on right. Looking up exit of ox-bow where it spit me out. High banks give me the willies. And snakes have wrapped around my waist in the strong current. Once a moccasin. Chipped me a pile of tumbles right there in the creek There was over 50 corals under the sand not two feet in front of the little pile of tumbles. Reach into sand and feel for them. Pile of tumbles center and a bit left between the cypress knees out of that raging current in the point. You can see the excavation hole in front of the pile
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Post by jamesp on May 31, 2015 18:51:09 GMT -5
P.S. Coral a great knapping material. Hit this one on the right side and a single chip followed all the way to the left side. Chips even better after heated.
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Post by orrum on May 31, 2015 18:51:17 GMT -5
U go James!
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Post by rockpickerforever on May 31, 2015 19:07:19 GMT -5
James, that stuff is awesome! You were/are just down there now? I love the pics of the lay of the land. Oxbows, huh? Bet kap be kicking hisself about now, lol. SWIM FOR IT, SUCKA!!!!
ETA - That water snake probably not the worst thing you've been bit by, James.
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Post by jamesp on May 31, 2015 19:20:04 GMT -5
rockpickerforever Jean, that one scared me to the max. It was right there, and being in water it is hard to move quick. Lots of current and rocky bottom full of snags. Like walking on bowling balls. Keith will figure the immediacy of the water dynamics. I was tickled that he bought that boat.
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Post by quartz on Jun 1, 2015 0:09:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the trip coverage, rocking there sure different than here. Enjoy seeing that difference.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 1, 2015 7:38:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the trip coverage, rocking there sure different than here. Enjoy seeing that difference. This trip without a boat Larry. Climbing up and down steep banks took a toll. Ibuprofen helping out. Over many years the limerock gets dissolved in the acid water channel and leaves the silica rocks in the bottom of the water way. The silica sand stays on the bottom too. Where the current is fast it removes the sand and exposes the solids. The coral will pile up at turns and bends in the water way. Sometimes a foot or two thick of coral heads stacked up. So the stream dynamics come into play. Found two crystalline quartz cobbles washed down from Appalachia in this creek. serving as markers Along with the crystalline quartz, clay probably washed down too. Flat areas above creeks and rivers at 71-74 feet above sea level are productive in this 10 mile circle. The coral found in sand is dead white/clearish. The ones in colorful clay pockets have rich color. The problem is finding the small colored clay pockets, few and far between. And picking the coral from these pockets. Picking them at the clay pocket before they fall in the river and mix with the mostly white coral in the water way. In all cases the water way has to be fast moving to keep sediment from covering up the coral.
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 1, 2015 7:43:13 GMT -5
"High banks give me the willy's" I'm guessing because of crocs? and not just the shoe. lol Great pic and trip report.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 1, 2015 8:04:51 GMT -5
"High banks give me the willy's" I'm guessing because of crocs? and not just the shoe. lol Great pic and trip report. Just the snakes spirit. And they roost on the sun facing banks to stay hot. Watch where you put your feet and hands. These high flow creeks are spring fed with high flow rate at 72F. The reptiles try to stay out of the water to avoid lethargy. This creek flows into a small river that does not provide habitat for large gators. However, another creek about this size flows into the large L George. The big lake gators swim up it from the lake. That creek is a bit of an interstate for huge gators. It has gator attacks; it is also a commercial kayak/canoe run. They are specific about staying in the canoe. I know of 3 attacks on that creek, one resulted in a death. One of the attacks was on a man snorkeling and a 9-10 footer grabbed him head first and broke his sternum. He managed to get the gator to let go. Must have been dark inside that gator's throat. Wife and I were pulling my buddy while he was snorkeling behind the canoe on that creek in about 4 feet of water and noticed a ~12 footer laying on the bottom. The current was too strong to stop so my buddy had to suffer floating over that monster right under him. I could hear him screaming thru the snorkel LOL. He stayed in the canoe for the rest of the trip.
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Post by snowmom on Jun 1, 2015 8:26:02 GMT -5
aaaack! beautiful country but that sounds like way too much excitement for me! watersnakes here are very similar, they get much darker to all the way black as adults. I surprise small ones often while roaming the beaches, have only seen a couple large adults. They usually spot me first and flee. They are impressive swimmers in the water, love to see them! thanks for taking us with!
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 1, 2015 9:28:35 GMT -5
"High banks give me the willy's" I'm guessing because of crocs? and not just the shoe. lol Great pic and trip report. Just the snakes spirit. And they roost on the sun facing banks to stay hot. Watch where you put your feet and hands. These high flow creeks are spring fed with high flow rate at 72F. The reptiles try to stay out of the water to avoid lethargy. This creek flows into a small river that does not provide habitat for large gators. However, another creek about this size flows into the large L George. The big lake gators swim up it from the lake. That creek is a bit of an interstate for huge gators. It has gator attacks; it is also a commercial kayak/canoe run. They are specific about staying in the canoe. I know of 3 attacks on that creek, one resulted in a death. One of the attacks was on a man snorkeling and a 9-10 footer grabbed him head first and broke his sternum. He managed to get the gator to let go. Must have been dark inside that gator's throat. Wife and I were pulling my buddy while he was snorkeling behind the canoe on that creek in about 4 feet of water and noticed a ~12 footer laying on the bottom. The current was too strong to stop so my buddy had to suffer floating over that monster right under him. I could hear him screaming thru the snorkel LOL. He stayed in the canoe for the rest of the trip. LMAO, wouldnt get me in those waters. Trolling with bait! Ahh yes, gators not crocs. Thanks for the correction.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 1, 2015 21:08:40 GMT -5
snowmom spiritstone The only concern around water is the water moccasins. There is a lot of them down there and it is easy to lay a hand or a foot on them by accident. Hard to avoid sometimes. The gators are about always shy except some creeks which are major breeding grounds in August. Stay away from gators in July/august. They are unpredictable those two months. The rest of the time they run away from you. A 17 year old girl was walking next to a Mommy gators nest and she was attacked and killed at that Juniper Creek. Wrong place wrong time. I believe the other two attacks were in August by males guarding their territory at Juniper. Juniper was a party spot till recently the state closed it. Florida does not advertise shark and gator attacks, they are all about tourism. And shark attacks much more common than gator attacks. But people do not swim in gator waters as much as shark waters.
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