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Post by jamesp on Jul 23, 2015 14:58:45 GMT -5
Stoloniferous taro(Poi root in Hawaii) has run out of the bench and taken over east side of the house. Self proliferating, plenty of root stock for next year. Just starting, will have to curb it's growth or it will take over whole greenhouse. Poi root smelly, not sure how any one would eat it. But it is a crop in Asian countries. Grown in water. Whatever floats your boat
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 15:05:19 GMT -5
Poi is fermented similar to yogurt. Smell goes away and the resulting paste is quite tasty.
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Post by orrum on Jul 23, 2015 19:09:12 GMT -5
Looks like some stinking swamp plants here. Wonder if it's feral?
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Post by jamesp on Jul 23, 2015 19:59:58 GMT -5
Poi is fermented similar to yogurt. Smell goes away and the resulting paste is quite tasty. Glad to hear Scott, sucker stinks beforehand, fermenting sounds scary. Smells fermented as it is.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 23, 2015 20:00:59 GMT -5
Looks like some stinking swamp plants here. Wonder if it's feral? Nuclear feral Bill, untl it takes a dose of Round-Up. that will take the feral out of it.
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Post by orrum on Jul 23, 2015 20:05:38 GMT -5
I luv Roundup with a shot of Banvel James!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 23, 2015 20:12:01 GMT -5
I luv Roundup with a shot of Banvel James! banvel is 2-4-D ?
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Post by orrum on Jul 24, 2015 4:19:36 GMT -5
Hey James it's Dicamba chemical name. Be careful with this and b 24D around your dtuff. Both got a gas after being sprayed and can be picked up by a fog or mist and be carryed around, bad for your greenhouse and nursery.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 24, 2015 7:35:00 GMT -5
Hey James it's Dicamba chemical name. Be careful with this and b 24D around your dtuff. Both got a gas after being sprayed and can be picked up by a fog or mist and be carryed around, bad for your greenhouse and nursery. Spraying close to planted stock is unnerving Bill, wait for no air movement. And of course, hottest time of day w/sun straight up is usually the best time. Have much better luck adding surfactant, makes the herbicide stick and spread on the plants better. It is cheap and Round-Up concentration can be about cut in half. One cup surfactant to 5 gallon sprayer.
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Post by Fossilman on Jul 24, 2015 10:18:38 GMT -5
Asians eat some funky food! Yogurt-oh hell no!..........Some plants are like a raging fire and take control of an area pretty damn quick..LOL
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Post by panamark on Jul 24, 2015 11:13:49 GMT -5
In South America is it called dasheen. Lots of different varieties of this taro plant, but all pretty similar in that they grow in moist/swampy conditions and thus are a major food source for huge populations. I have heard it rivals rice as the main world staple. The problem is that they all have a very toxic ingredient, calcium oxalate that must be neutralized first (boiling, treating with citric acid, etc.) It is a very starchy and bland food, and I personally much prefer potatoes. But if I was hungry I would be happy to do the work to have this meal.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 24, 2015 14:16:16 GMT -5
In South America is it called dasheen. Lots of different varieties of this taro plant, but all pretty similar in that they grow in moist/swampy conditions and thus are a major food source for huge populations. I have heard it rivals rice as the main world staple. The problem is that they all have a very toxic ingredient, calcium oxalate that must be neutralized first (boiling, treating with citric acid, etc.) It is a very starchy and bland food, and I personally much prefer potatoes. But if I was hungry I would be happy to do the work to have this meal. Yep, heard about the name dasheen. And calcium oxalate is a chemical in several aquatic plants. The ones the deer don't eat for one thing. Wetland produce/food an efficient machine. Easy to keep watered and grows like no tomorrow. It is a shame more delicious healthy foods do not grow in wetlands Mark. The base stalk of giant cattails in the drinkable water of central Florida springs is some fine eating. Easy to cut and prepare, that and palm hearts and you can survive well. Bet palm hearts are a crop at your Panama. Never realized taro was such a big staple food. Lotus roots have no flavor either, but a chef can sure make them tasty. Primary cause of crop failure in my biz is plant out growing pot. Timing critical. Generate mass compost piles from unsold/overgrown plants.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 24, 2015 14:24:21 GMT -5
Asians eat some funky food! Yogurt-oh hell no!..........Some plants are like a raging fire and take control of an area pretty damn quick..LOL I think native man had a cast iron stomach. Probably an adaptation process. Acridity is common in wild vegetation. Funny, FDA did not test food back then. It was all trial and error. Ha-watch Mikey eat it, if he dies avoid it, if he gets rich color then all is well. They may have eaten plants that served as steroids/vitality/virility/etc. We will never know. Organic compounds and their effects on the human body is complicated stuff.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jul 24, 2015 17:28:40 GMT -5
I think native man had a cast iron stomach. Probably an adaptation process. Acridity is common in wild vegetation. Funny, FDA did not test food back then. It was all trial and error. Ha-watch Mikey eat it, if he dies avoid it, if he gets rich color then all is well. They may have eaten plants that served as steroids/vitality/virility/etc. We will never know. Organic compounds and their effects on the human body is complicated stuff. Lots of drugs use organic compounds, both from plants and animals. Red yeast rice, documented use in traditional medicine traced back to 800 AD in China, used today to help lower cholesterol. A yeast, or fungus if you will (Monascus purpureus), that grows on rice, gives the red color to Peking Duck dish. The first statins were isolated from it, ingredient in Mevacor, produced by Merck & Co.
Ergot, a fungus that grows on rye and related plants, produces ergotamine, a potent vasoconstrictor, for treatment of migraines.
Byetta, a drug used to help even out sugar levels in diabetics, is made from the saliva of gila monsters. No kidding.
And of course, everyone knows about penicillin. The list goes on...
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Post by jamesp on Jul 24, 2015 19:04:45 GMT -5
There is a thick volume written about medicinal Amazon plants. Can't find it on the net, but have seen it rockpickerforever. Listing was by ailment, followed by plants to treat. It was kinda phenomenal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 11:30:34 GMT -5
fossilman you just managed to insult two racesof people. Hawaiian are not Asian and neither want to be compared! Yogurt is a primitive cheese. Do you eat cheese?
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