Don
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Post by Don on Aug 4, 2015 17:30:23 GMT -5
Found in upper-state New York, early 1800's. My guess, fine grain banded rhyolite, river tumbled. alternate guesses, pet wood, banded chert. What do you think?  |
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Post by woodman on Aug 4, 2015 18:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by lilacmoth on Aug 4, 2015 21:34:48 GMT -5
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Post by Don on Aug 5, 2015 9:33:02 GMT -5
Just looking for opinions on what kind of geological formation it is from, don't care about it's religious history.
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Post by Pat on Aug 5, 2015 9:58:06 GMT -5
Reminds me of mahogany obsidian. Colorwise.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Aug 5, 2015 10:51:51 GMT -5
I don't know too much about the Mormon religion, but I don't know how a rock could help someone translate a book from ancient Egyptian to English. Nice enough rock, though. I could totally understand asking one of my wives to make a leather pouch for it.
Ok, off to read more about Mormons.
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Don
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Post by Don on Aug 5, 2015 11:42:01 GMT -5
any ideas on what kind of rock it is?
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Post by Mark K on Aug 5, 2015 13:27:05 GMT -5
Well, it is round and the Mormons think it is a relic.
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It must be a Holy Roller.
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Post by Don on Aug 5, 2015 15:16:06 GMT -5
Well, it is round and the Mormons think it is a relic. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It must be a Holy Roller. Funny, I guess. I guess it's too much to ask for a serious discussion here on the geological formation of this stone. The temptation to make fun of Mormons is too great apparently. |
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Post by Mark K on Aug 5, 2015 15:42:20 GMT -5
I would guess that it is metamorphic.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 5, 2015 15:55:58 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Aug 5, 2015 16:05:25 GMT -5
I'm going with a hematite & jasper.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 5, 2015 16:20:36 GMT -5
The gold bands look like iron stained quartz, or could be limonite.
Have you tried a magnet against it to see if the darker areas are possibly magnetite?
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Post by Sabre52 on Aug 5, 2015 17:23:44 GMT -5
I'm liking the jasper/hematite too but a lot of rhyolite looks very much like that too. If hematite, the dark areas would have a metallic sheen but I can't tell on my monitor....Mel
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Post by nowyo on Aug 5, 2015 20:23:26 GMT -5
Upper state New York covers a lot of territory. Could that be narrowed down any? If I remember right Smith was from the central part of the state, that's soft rock country. More apt to find trilobites and horn corals than hematite/jasper. There are some old iron mines in the Adirondacks, they used to mine ilmenite up at Tahawus, and I've read about some weird metamorphic stuff North of NYC. Other stuff as well, but I'm guessing that rock isn't from New York.
Russ
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Post by Jugglerguy on Aug 5, 2015 20:32:09 GMT -5
I know nothing about New York rocks, but wouldn't there be glacially deposited rocks like there are here in Michigan? I find all sorts of weird rocks here that I can't identify.
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Post by nowyo on Aug 5, 2015 21:11:04 GMT -5
Yeah, good point, Rob. Most stuff didn't travel all that far, though. There is banded iron formation to the north in Ontario but that's a long way for the ice to have carried the rock. Kind of depends a lot on where it was actually found, "upper state NY" means different things. To me it would mean between Albany and NYC, west into the Catskills. Gawd, how I hate that area.
Russ
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 5, 2015 21:17:49 GMT -5
Looks like an iron rich Chert to me.
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Post by captbob on Aug 5, 2015 21:33:51 GMT -5
How did Joseph Smith manage to lose the gold tablets yet keep the rock?
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Post by Jugglerguy on Aug 6, 2015 7:58:35 GMT -5
According to Wikipedia, the angel took them back when he was done with them.
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