kislany
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Post by kislany on Aug 24, 2016 3:06:23 GMT -5
Hey guys, long time returning member here (I think last time I was here we still had the old forum?). Anyway just got back into rock tumbling (this is a hobby I keep coming back to again and again) and I've noticed that i'm running low on some grit. Now I"m in Europe and here the 'hobby' is not as prevalent as in the US, so you can't find stuff as easily over the pond. The only place I found grit for tumbling is on eBay in the UK, but for rough grit they only have 80. I have from before (way before we got into European Union and the custom duties make it just about impossible to order anything from the US anymore) some 60/90 grit. I tried searching the forum here, but I guess the short words (grit 80) were not enough to give me any results, hence my long post for a quick question So before I buy the 80 grit, is it the same coarseness as the 60/90 you guys are using in here, should I safely buy it or bite the bullet and order super expensively from the US? It seems in Europe 80 is the standard number for coarse grit. Thanks guys!
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kislany
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Post by kislany on Aug 24, 2016 5:38:08 GMT -5
Ok I guess I found the answer own my own. Probably was wrong to ask here since most folks are from the US where 60/90 is the norm. So for anyone else from Europe who might come later on here wondering about the same thing:
60/90 is ungraded, so it has a mix of various grades grits, while 80 is simply only one size. The only main difference btw the two is the price (so 80 is more expensive).
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 24, 2016 5:53:15 GMT -5
Welcome back Plenty of folks here are using 80 grit in stage one right now. Not really by choice but we have a supplier that is selling 80 grit in bulk at a much lower cost then 60/90 so many people switched over. I tried it and did not think it was worth the savings but I was switching from 46/70 so it was just too big of a jump for me. I found this thread that may shed some light forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/69398/80-grit?page=1Chuck
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kislany
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Post by kislany on Aug 24, 2016 8:25:00 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck. For some reason searching in the forum failed me, probably I entered wrong keywords. Glad to see confirmed that there is not much difference between the two. In Europe you simply can't find 60/90 and I tried, going as far as online searches in German speaking countries, Greek and English too. Everywhere they only sell 80, so I guess the choice is already made for me, heh.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 24, 2016 8:27:41 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck. For some reason searching in the forum failed me, probably I entered wrong keywords. Glad to see confirmed that there is not much difference between the two. In Europe you simply can't find 60/90 and I tried, going as far as online searches in German speaking countries, Greek and English too. Everywhere they only sell 80, so I guess the choice is already made for me, heh. For future reference read the following post for a much better way to search the forum. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/55498/search-forum-answersChuck
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kislany
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Post by kislany on Aug 24, 2016 8:30:09 GMT -5
Ah I see, using the google "site" search. Makes sense. Thanks for the tip, guess I completely forgot about it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 10:36:14 GMT -5
kislanyYou should be able to find companies that sell "surface prep" or "media blasting" supplies to industry. Assuming you are successful at finding one of these type companies in your area, they will have the greatest variety of abrasive supplies. Welcome back and good luck,
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Post by kislany on Aug 24, 2016 14:31:36 GMT -5
Thanks @shotgunner. I'm living in Cyprus, a small island in the Mediterraneans, so anywhere I buy it from is quite expensive given the weight of the package and the shipping cost. Here in Cyprus such things simply do not exist We are a touristic island with not much else going on. Right now I found a place in Germany which sells grit (granted the 80 size, but I known now that it's ok to work with), I can buy it per kg (2.2 lb) packages - they only ship within Germany, but as my brother lives there, I can have it sent to him and then he'll forward it to me. Bit cumbersome, but at least I have no custom duties and morose post-workers to deal with (respect to any post workers in this group, but the ones working in Cyprus specifically at the customs departments are another species altogether). These are the sizes and prices they have in that German store: www.mineraliengrosshandel.com/Siliciumcarbid-Schleifpulver:::50.html
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 24, 2016 14:53:32 GMT -5
Thanks @shotgunner. I'm living in Cyprus, a small island in the Mediterraneans, so anywhere I buy it from is quite expensive given the weight of the package and the shipping cost. Here in Cyprus such things simply do not exist We are a touristic island with not much else going on. Right now I found a place in Germany which sells grit (granted the 80 size, but I known now that it's ok to work with), I can buy it per kg (2.2 lb) packages - they only ship within Germany, but as my brother lives there, I can have it sent to him and then he'll forward it to me. Bit cumbersome, but at least I have no custom duties and morose post-workers to deal with (respect to any post workers in this group, but the ones working in Cyprus specifically at the customs departments are another species altogether). These are the sizes and prices they have in that German store: www.mineraliengrosshandel.com/Siliciumcarbid-Schleifpulver:::50.htmlLooks to me like they have 60 grit for the same price as 80. I would be going for the 60 grit myself but then again I am used to using 46/70 for stage one. I guess it kind of depends on what your stage two grit will be. I use a 120/220 mix in stage two and have no issues with that jump from my 46/70 but if I could only get straight 220 the jump might be more noticeable. Does that make sense? Chuck
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 19:06:15 GMT -5
Thanks @shotgunner. I'm living in Cyprus, a small island in the Mediterraneans, so anywhere I buy it from is quite expensive given the weight of the package and the shipping cost. Here in Cyprus such things simply do not exist We are a touristic island with not much else going on. Right now I found a place in Germany which sells grit (granted the 80 size, but I known now that it's ok to work with), I can buy it per kg (2.2 lb) packages - they only ship within Germany, but as my brother lives there, I can have it sent to him and then he'll forward it to me. Bit cumbersome, but at least I have no custom duties and morose post-workers to deal with (respect to any post workers in this group, but the ones working in Cyprus specifically at the customs departments are another species altogether). These are the sizes and prices they have in that German store: www.mineraliengrosshandel.com/Siliciumcarbid-Schleifpulver:::50.htmlWell, at least you have Halloumi Cheese.
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kislany
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wire wrapper learning to tumble and cab rocks
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Post by kislany on Aug 25, 2016 0:39:31 GMT -5
@shotgunner - true that! I'm originally Hungarian so first time I tried halloumi was when I came to Cyprus, and I fell in love. Nowadays you can find halloumi in other countries as well, but trust me on that, they're not quite the same. The recipe is proprietary to Cyprus, so people and companies are attempting it, but with only meager results. Drummond Island Rocks - Yes the prices seem to be the same, so you're saying I could instead use the 60 grit. For the next stages I will have to order from Germany as well when I run out from my current batch, so I see there that for stage 2 they have 220, so I guess that's what I'll be using. But won't the jump from 60 to 220 be too big? For stage three I'm kinda confused as I see they have 400, 600, 800 and 1000. I was going to go with 600, hope my choice is the right one?
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Aug 25, 2016 6:09:36 GMT -5
Your grit selection over there does not line up very well with our normal stages that is for sure. My stage one is 46/70, stage two 120/220, stage three 500, stage four (when needed) is 1000 and then .3 micron aluminum oxide polish.
I use larger 12 pound barrels and the 46/70 works really good for me but if you are using smaller barrels like 3 pounds I would go with the 80 grit for stage one, 220 for stage two, 600 for stage three, 1000 for stage four (if needed) and then your choice of polish.
If you ever think the jump is too large between two stages just run the previous stage a little longer. The way grit breaks down the longer the stage runs the finer the grit in the load is getting.
Chuck
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 10:24:00 GMT -5
kislany the recipe is the simplest recipe ever, I have made meager cheese too. The difference is going to be the milk. The Cypriot milk is going to be different than anywhere else.
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kislany
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Post by kislany on Aug 25, 2016 12:18:23 GMT -5
Your grit selection over there does not line up very well with our normal stages that is for sure. My stage one is 46/70, stage two 120/220, stage three 500, stage four (when needed) is 1000 and then .3 micron aluminum oxide polish. I use larger 12 pound barrels and the 46/70 works really good for me but if you are using smaller barrels like 3 pounds I would go with the 80 grit for stage one, 220 for stage two, 600 for stage three, 1000 for stage four (if needed) and then your choice of polish. If you ever think the jump is too large between two stages just run the previous stage a little longer. The way grit breaks down the longer the stage runs the finer the grit in the load is getting. Chuck Awesome thank you, that's what I will use. Thank you for your time in helping me!
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