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Post by quartz on Sept 14, 2016 10:54:03 GMT -5
Granted, nylon in one piece would likely be better, but a true "solvent weld" rather than a "glueing" on layers of PVC would create a solid block of material. If you have the mtl. cost effective is a player too.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2016 12:03:12 GMT -5
Granted, nylon in one piece would likely be better, but a true "solvent weld" rather than a "glueing" on layers of PVC would create a solid block of material. If you have the mtl. cost effective is a player too. Does solvent weld come in a bottle ?
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Post by orrum on Sept 14, 2016 15:20:29 GMT -5
Jim I use 12 pound Lortones and PVC barrels. I also use 3 and 4 pound ones to do quartz, smethyst, glass and slabbets. I recently started trying the fist sized rocks because they make incredible shelf talkers!!! LOL. Your rock shelf of bookends and large display pieces got me going on this. The Loto can't handle them that big so I am hoping you explore rotary polishing of large pieces!
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2016 16:22:31 GMT -5
Jim I use 12 pound Lortones and PVC barrels. I also use 3 and 4 pound ones to do quartz, smethyst, glass and slabbets. I recently started trying the fist sized rocks because they make incredible shelf talkers!!! LOL. Your rock shelf of bookends and large display pieces got me going on this. The Loto can't handle them that big so I am hoping you explore rotary polishing of large pieces! A lot of sugar in AO 500 and AO 14,000 sure comes in handy for running 8-14 ounce ers together in the rotary. Probably not needed if you are just running one 2-4 pound with smalls. 3-4 pound PVC barrels ?
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Post by huskeric on Sept 14, 2016 16:45:59 GMT -5
What about HDPE heated and bent? You would have one open joint, unless you did concentric rings, but using thinner material would make it a hell of a lot easier to bend. I can buy a 4x8 sheet of 1/8" (or maybe 1/4", I would have to check) at my local hardware store for less than $40. You could cut it with a table saw or circular saw, then cut it to overall length and then use a heat gun and bend it over something rigid. I am saying this as a theorist, but would imagine it would work. Then you could seal the end with either a solvent/glue or silicone and make one just a wee bit smaller (or larger) and put the joints on opposing ends.
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Post by orrum on Sept 14, 2016 17:39:28 GMT -5
Yes Jim I put the crystal or whatever in at half full and top off with ceramics and use 60/90. No bruising and nice shapes.
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Post by quartz on Sept 14, 2016 20:33:14 GMT -5
PVC "glue" is called a solvent weld because it dissolves the material and joins it much like arc welding, as opposed to Elmers or CA type glues that join and hold the material together w/o actually penetrating or dissolving it. So yes, solvent weld does come in a bottle.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:06:26 GMT -5
Granted, nylon in one piece would likely be better, but a true "solvent weld" rather than a "glueing" on layers of PVC would create a solid block of material. If you have the mtl. cost effective is a player too. Does solvent weld come in a bottle ? Standard PVC glue. You have three bottles. I am sure. ETA: Larry beat me to it!
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Post by jamesp on Sept 14, 2016 22:22:48 GMT -5
Initials D.A. tattooed on my forehead
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Post by Intheswamp on Sept 14, 2016 23:10:56 GMT -5
I know I shouldn't've liked it, but I couldn't help myself....
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Post by quartz on Sept 14, 2016 23:22:45 GMT -5
It's O.K., you can skip the tattoo. I worked at Stimson Lumber. Co. for 22+ years, they gave out baseball caps with SL on the front. We decided that stood for "Slow Learner".
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Post by jamesp on Sept 15, 2016 5:12:08 GMT -5
I know I shouldn't've liked it, but I couldn't help myself.... By all means 'like' that one. Do you prefer 'D.A' or stoopid. quartz keeps me on my toes. Mention of solvent was too easy.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 15, 2016 5:17:12 GMT -5
It's O.K., you can skip the tattoo. I worked at Stimson Lumber. Co. for 22+ years, they gave out baseball caps with SL on the front. We decided that stood for "Slow Learner". My wife has a habit of using the loser gesture. She would say SL = serious loser. Wife is serious smart ass.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 15, 2016 5:49:02 GMT -5
Yes Jim I put the crystal or whatever in at half full and top off with ceramics and use 60/90. No bruising and nice shapes. Excellent. Media a fine protectant. I will say that the clay has replaced media. But, depending on thick slurry instead of media is riskier if you have a period of thin slurry causing frost. Tried a bunch of thickeners, my red clay is real dependable. Sugar gets thin in the heat of the day and thick at cool of night.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 15, 2016 6:00:09 GMT -5
What about HDPE heated and bent? You would have one open joint, unless you did concentric rings, but using thinner material would make it a hell of a lot easier to bend. I can buy a 4x8 sheet of 1/8" (or maybe 1/4", I would have to check) at my local hardware store for less than $40. You could cut it with a table saw or circular saw, then cut it to overall length and then use a heat gun and bend it over something rigid. I am saying this as a theorist, but would imagine it would work. Then you could seal the end with either a solvent/glue or silicone and make one just a wee bit smaller (or larger) and put the joints on opposing ends. 6" PVC bushings and end caps are real easy to glue together Rick. Close to 1/2 inch thick plastic has about become a prerequisite for PVC barrel material. If you can prevent the center of the end cap from wearing thru the rest of the barrel wears out about equally. Never have worked with HDPE much on tumbler barrels, but have in other projects and like it a lot. a hot air gun will allow bending it really easy. I believe it can be heat welded. I wish I could find a large one piece jar made out of super thick HDPE with a 4-5 inch cap opening.
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